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Re: Don’t Mess with The Google

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>Anything critical and entirely irreplaceable goes onto blu-ray disks, because I can't accidentally delete those There's bit-rot though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation#Decay_of_stor...

I'm aware of that too well; blu-ray, however, is slightly better than the predecessors: even the current, non-archival grade single layer Panasonics should - according to some accelerated tests - last 5-10 years. Now, looking at the current ideas from Sony[1], within 8-10 years every data I ever had will need 1 disk, so I'm not worried. [1]: http://www.computerworld.com/article/3057889/data-storage/so...

Blu-ray? Really? Sure, they may last, but, will you have a blu-ray reader?

I've worked in IT for over ten years, and have not once, once seen a blu ray in person, or ever handled a machine capable of reading one. It'd be incredible afraid to have my backups in something that requires some expensive exotic device to be written/read.

You'd be much better off with USB sticks.

Re: Don’t Mess with The Google

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post #170

First post, might as well be a cautionary tale. My father, a pretty old programmer by anyone's standards, regularly warns me of this sort of thing. He was pretty much shafted by CompuServe many years ago on a miniscule scale compared to what is possible now. He lives his life in what I previously described as a paranoid bubble of data control. Until I inevitably burned myself with Google. I have no idea what happened…

Ultimately information in the cloud, or anywhere is not backed up if it only exists in one place. Backing it up for one's self is essential.

This leaves most people in two categories: those who haven't (yet) had a catastrophic, unrecoverable data loss, and those who have. Leaving it to others, or all your eggs with just one service is an invitation to the first group. What I can say is it's almost certain something unimaginable will happen, be it a data center, service shutting down, or something getting corrupted.

I want to echo my experience of losing 16 years of email with Hotmail over at Microsoft due to the wind blowing arbitrarily in a different direction for a few months. I had my MSN messenger log in automatically to keep my account active on Hotmail, a criteria which was quietly ended. Unforgivable for me. Had some of it backed up luckily in real email clients but lost some critical emails and photos with a friend who passed away.

People who either haven't generated enough of a digital footprint and lost it are going to be in for an inevitable surprise with the online services that they take for granted as being ubiquitous. While the cloud is awesome, it is still quite in it's infancy.

Re: Don’t Mess with The Google

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Can you clarify what this means: "Flexible tamper-proof data retention policies with unlimited archiving space" - from the pricing page. I am considering to switch to Fastmail, seems nice!

At a techinical level it means we take a copy of each incoming and outgoing (assuming you send via our web interface or via our SMTP servers) email and dump them into a separate folder in a separate account on our server which your admin accounts get a READ-ONLY ACL to, so you can see the messages, but can't remove them or modify them. Unlimited is a bit buzzwordy, because we do have sending and receiving rate limits…

Alright, one more question: where is the data located? My main reason for switching is to move the data from US-based servers and/or companies.

> Our main servers are located at New York Internet (NYI) in New York City, USA.

Nvm... :(

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