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Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by Reason077 »

Klathmon wrote: post #120
PinguTS wrote: post #91

Daimler done that 3 years ago even in high density city traffic. Daimler could even pass vehicles that covered half the lane and didn't need to stop for them. https://youtu.be/SUOC8tE4bdM

And a horse could do it centuries before that, but that's not a fair comparison either. The car in that video had so much extra custom stuff it's not even funny. And while it's still a technical feat, I don't see every mercedes being sold with that equipment in it already. The reason this is amazing is because Tesla is planning on switching this on for all of their new cars in the very near future. It might not be th…

It's just like how Mercedes (and others) have shown some fantastic "Tesla killer" electric vehicle concepts. That's nice, but it's not really something that competes with Tesla until it's available to buy.

While the others make promises, Tesla's making cars.

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by oceanswave »

rasz_pl wrote: post #121
smnscu wrote: post #25

Wow so many comments about the Benny Hill music. I for one love that Elon Musk's quirky sense of humour. So many people take themselves far too seriously.

We are talking about a car that decapitated its driver this year.

While watching Harry Potter. Perhaps the Harry Potter theme would have been more appropriate, but I'm sure that licensing would have been prohibitive. I can hear some similarities, so maybe it was an NN based suggestion

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by fao_ »

ajmurmann wrote: post #98
celticninja wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother, err on the side of caution with pedestrians. The driver is already benefiting from auto pilot, a minor delay due to safety of other road users would be acceptable to most.

It's inconveniencing other drivers on the road and much more importantly this erratic stopping from a human perspective might make it more likely to cause an accident. Granted the accident would legally be the meat driven car's fault who bumps into the suddenly stopped Tesla. It would still be nice to play well with human drivers who don't have the luxury of relaxing in a self driving car.

> Granted the accident would legally be the meat driven car's fault who bumps into the suddenly stopped Tesla.

Exactly. If you bump into the car in front, because they stopped for a percieved hazard, it is your fault for tailgaiting, not their fault for percieving a hazard.

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by kayoone »

pmyjavec wrote: post #109
jzwinck wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Large parts of cities will be turned into roads for driverless cars to ferry themselves to and from the office 2x as many times to save the owner $10 on parking. Traffic will go slowly because driverless cars don't care about speed when no one is inside. And then all the plebs still driving their own cars will be stuffed.

This is kind of true, as much as this tech is fascinating, I can't help but feel trains and better planned cities are the real solution to the car problem. Even in parts of Europe I noticed they put big trucks on trains to automate a large part of the journey and a driver finishes the last leg of the trip. Trains are also much easier to automate, I also imagine a train track costs less to maintain than a road.

Trains are complementary but there will always be need for personal transportation.

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by Klathmon »

oceanswave wrote: post #132
rasz_pl wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are talking about a car that decapitated its driver this year.

While watching Harry Potter. Perhaps the Harry Potter theme would have been more appropriate, but I'm sure that licensing would have been prohibitive. I can hear some similarities, so maybe it was an NN based suggestion

That's still just an allegation from the driver of the semi (he said he heard harry potter playing, and there was a portable DVD player found, nothing more was released).

But what is confirmed is that he was speeding at the time as well, and after that incident Tesla put out an update preventing autopilot from being set for more than 5mph over the speed limit.

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by snsr »

I'm curious about the implications of this technology (which is amazing) on courteous driving habits.

I regularly stop to let people cross the road, I cross the center line when safe to give people and cyclists (if I plan to pass) extra space etc. I suppose, in this Tesla at least, you can just take control, but some other proposed implementations seem to have a less traditional UI.

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #28
em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A real convincing promo video would be in stormy weather with angry, unpredictable drivers and random jaywalking kids.

Agreed. Throw in some fog, high-speed stop-and-go interstate fun, and moving from the interstate into a crowded city full of people jaywalking and running stoplights trying to get to where they're going.

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Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by Klathmon »

sundvor wrote: post #17
sliken wrote: post #3

Impressive to watch. The Tesla drives quite politely, but not annoyingly so (read that as impeding traffic). It actually stopped for the joggers who wasn't actually in the road, but very close. It also waited for a bicyclist on the right to turn left in front of the car. Looks pretty promising, not bad, especially since the trend in software (and sensors) is to get better over time.

This is pretty impressive. Still, at 00:54, getting a closer look at the female runners? Someone following could have gotten caught out if driving too close / playing Pokemon. A human driver (well, at least myself) would simply have lifted the foot off the accelerator somewhat and drifted closer to the centre line when passing - seeing as there was no oncoming traffic.

Perhaps the car knows it's own capabilities better than we humans do.

Maybe it knows that if the joggers were to suddenly jump out, doing what you or I would do isn't enough, so it slowed down to a near stop just in case.

Also, it's a bit of a "blind corner", so drifting out toward the middle of the lane might not be the best idea (again, even though it's probably something I as a person in that scenario would have done).

Re: Autopilot Full Self-Driving Demonstration [video]

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Post by phee »

ajmurmann wrote: post #98
celticninja wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why bother, err on the side of caution with pedestrians. The driver is already benefiting from auto pilot, a minor delay due to safety of other road users would be acceptable to most.

It's inconveniencing other drivers on the road and much more importantly this erratic stopping from a human perspective might make it more likely to cause an accident. Granted the accident would legally be the meat driven car's fault who bumps into the suddenly stopped Tesla. It would still be nice to play well with human drivers who don't have the luxury of relaxing in a self driving car.

I agree, legal or not, I very much rely on other drivers "signals" when driving. Over the years you learn to predict what the driver in front of you would do in a normal situation and adjust your driving in advance. I'm still able to break on emergency but when you can clearly see way ahead of the car in front there is no obstacle and yet they still brake it's extremely risky and frustrating. Young drivers here usually mark the car some way to warn you to be super aware of their unexpected behavior, I'd expect self driving cars would to the same.
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