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Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by javery »

Tichy wrote: post #28
javery wrote: post #19

Of all the apps I use on a daily basis I can think of only one that has AdMob ads running. I think what this says more than anything else is that the apps being written for Android are being forced to rely on ad sales as their revenue model more than the apps being written for iPhone.

Wouldn't the stats here be for web sites rather than apps? Otherwise the metric "web traffic" wouldn't make much sense?

It's tough to tell what they are really reporting here since I don't see it in the original AdMob report. If it's just web traffic then it is fairly useless to look at AdMob's numbers when there are much better sources out there. AdMob represents a whopping 18k websites of the 100M or so out there.

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by Terretta »

mtw wrote: post #38
jrockway wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would estimate Android has more ad-supported applications so I'm not surprised at all. I can't think of any ad-supported Android apps. (I have a lot of apps, and none of them have ads.)

... and I can't think of any iPhone app using AdMob

From mine, HeyWay and AccuWeather use AdMob, while Instapaper Free uses "The Deck"

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

jrockway wrote: post #33
nessence wrote: post #31

The stats are for "AD" content, not Web Traffic. I would estimate Android has more ad-supported applications so I'm not surprised at all. To reiterate, this statistic has nothing to do with web traffic. Original release: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmV...

I would estimate Android has more ad-supported applications so I'm not surprised at all. I can't think of any ad-supported Android apps. (I have a lot of apps, and none of them have ads.)

Really? There are tons of them. Some of the AdMob supported apps on my phone at the moment include:

* Movies (Flixster) * Load Monitor * MixZing * Virtual Beer * BlueTooth File Transfer * Carr Matey * Aldiko * Camera Magic * VG Classics Board * Dolphin Browser

The Hacker News Reader app is also ad supported, although I think they're using a different ad network.

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

bartl wrote: post #26
biafra wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but only if Apple allows unsigned apps on the iPhone. Then its a matter of taste & money. Money that I would be willing to spend if I owned the phone after purchasing it, like I own my MacBook Pro. My hope is that Android is so successful that Apple has to allow unsigned App. Until then I am happy developing apps for Android.

Allowing only signed apps has one huge advantage: no malware. I do feel that Apple should weaken its requirements and only disallow bad apps.

I think that's a pretty unproven assertion. There's no evidence that Apple's review process is anywhere near comprehensive enough to detect zero day malware.

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

IgorPartola wrote: post #16
biafra wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but only if Apple allows unsigned apps on the iPhone. Then its a matter of taste & money. Money that I would be willing to spend if I owned the phone after purchasing it, like I own my MacBook Pro. My hope is that Android is so successful that Apple has to allow unsigned App. Until then I am happy developing apps for Android.

I think it will have to. On the other hand, I try to remind myself that 95% of iPhone/SmartPhone users out there don't care about Apple's embargo on certain apps. The most visible one was Google Voice, and that's still in a very closed beta. Things will dramatically change when the Andriod phones have something the iPhone doesn't that matters to those 95%.

I think that at the very least they're going to have to provide some method for Enterprises to load custom or semi-custom enterprise specific apps without going through the app store.

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

progr wrote: post #3

1. Admob is Google. 2. This is AD traffic. 3. != news

Given how many are predicting that the mobile web is a key component, if not the dominant component of the future of the web itself, and further given how many HN readers are running, or would like run some kind of web-focused startup. I don't see how this can NOT be HN relevant news.

Regardless of what your personal preferences are for one mobile platform vs another, the increased competition among the leading mobile platforms is driving down prices and driving up innovation in the mobile market. All of which is driving greater penetration of web-capable smartphone vs plain old "feature phones". All of which is likely to make the "mobile web" and important part of being competitive in any web-based venture.

Or at least, that's my perspective. :-)

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by glhaynes »

theBobMcCormick wrote: post #45
IgorPartola wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it will have to. On the other hand, I try to remind myself that 95% of iPhone/SmartPhone users out there don't care about Apple's embargo on certain apps. The most visible one was Google Voice, and that's still in a very closed beta. Things will dramatically change when the Andriod phones have something the iPhone doesn't that matters to those 95%.

I think that at the very least they're going to have to provide some method for Enterprises to load custom or semi-custom enterprise specific apps without going through the app store.

They have that. See here: http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by theBobMcCormick »

glhaynes wrote: post #47
theBobMcCormick wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that at the very least they're going to have to provide some method for Enterprises to load custom or semi-custom enterprise specific apps without going through the app store.

They have that. See here: http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/

Shoot. How'd I miss that? Anyway thanks for pointing that out!

Re: Android Passes iPhone Web Traffic In U.S.

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Post by gill_bates »

nessence wrote: post #31

The stats are for "AD" content, not Web Traffic. I would estimate Android has more ad-supported applications so I'm not surprised at all. To reiterate, this statistic has nothing to do with web traffic. Original release: http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmV...

> would estimate Android has more ad-supported applications so I'm not surprised at all

Always interesting when people refute metrics with hand waving. "I would estimate" is a good sign that you shouldn't.

AdMob isn't secret about their metric methodology. http://metrics.admob.com/

It is overwhelmingly driven by mobile web sites (which, humorously, usually call themselves "iPhone versions"), which I think is pretty fair to use as a comparison point.

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