It would be nice, if they would improve the terminal window a bit with tabs and the like (like Gnome Terminal for example).
Meanwhile, Gnome Terminal has been taking away the tabs...
Psst, try pressing ctrl+alt+t in a terminal window
Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
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Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#232Windows fan here. I hate PowerShell and I'd much rather have Bash built into Windows. Things I hate about PowerShell: - You can't even run your own scripts without performing the Set-ExecutionPolicy ceremony first or signing your scripts. - It's way too verbose. - It's a strange bird that next to nobody uses, so there's zero motivation to learn it. - It's not "old reliable". You can't depend on it working due to the…
I totally get where you are coming from. When having to do work on Windows, I used to go out of my way to avoid PowerShell.
I finally gave it a solid chance one day and I've found that it can be surprisingly nice and powerful to work with.
You can globally disable policy enforcement. Maybe not the most "secure", but it's not something I wish to bother with. There is also a really nice package management system for PowerShell modules with things like git integration and etc.
You can check out my shell configuration here: https://gitlab.com/lholden/WindowsPowerShell
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#233Windows fan here. I hate PowerShell and I'd much rather have Bash built into Windows. Things I hate about PowerShell: - You can't even run your own scripts without performing the Set-ExecutionPolicy ceremony first or signing your scripts. - It's way too verbose. - It's a strange bird that next to nobody uses, so there's zero motivation to learn it. - It's not "old reliable". You can't depend on it working due to the…
Literally every windows admin uses it. It's the official commandline interface for microsoft software. Every piece of microsoft software must provide a ps interface. It's an engineering directive.
That's all correct and it is the right way to do things (especially from Microsoft's perspective). However, the main goal of Powershell seems to be providing a scripting language that can automate Windows internals and not a shell in which you live in. Powershell is just a nice REPL, not so much a shell as you might be used from Bash.
We have had Powershell for 10 years now. Has it taken off in a big way? No. The admins you mentioned use it because simple automation is the one thing GUIs cannot provide and MS had to face this after over a decade of denial.
Do people get out Powershell instead of Python to do cool new projects that are unrelated to devops or admin work? Some maybe. But the real music plays somewhere else. And some of the reasons for that have been mentioned by the GP.
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#234I think this is probably a step in the right direction, but it still only has 16 colors. When are we going to get a command prompt with at least 256 colors on Windows? There are already a bunch of linux consoles out there with true color, but nothing for Windows. Am I crazy for caring about this?
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#235Btw did anyone noticed that in windows 10 you can resize cmd.exe to more than 80 characters width! When I first saw it I almost cried.
It also support transparency and lot more features.
Install sysinternals, chocolatey (a package manager, https://chocolatey.org) and python, you are good to go.
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
My work laptop still runs Windows 7 - and will for the foreseeable future - but that is one of the things that make me curious about Windows 10. It is, of course, easy to ridicule Microsoft for how long it took them to change this, but I think better late than never. (On older versions of Windows, ConEmu[1] does that, too, but it's third-party software, of course. It also supports tabs!) [1] https://conemu.github.io/
Since conemu is mentioned, I'll chimed in with cmder[1]. It builds ontop of conemu and has git-for-windows integrated as well. [1] - http://cmder.net/
cmder developer also says:
> If you have trouble with anything I am happy to help. But you will have much better chances to find solutions on the pages of the upstream projects. Those are:
Console emulator ~ Conemu (https://conemu.github.io/)
Cmd.exe enhancements ~ clink (https://mridgers.github.io/clink/)
Unix tools on windows ~ git for windows (https://git-for-windows.github.io/)Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Literally every windows admin uses it. It's the official commandline interface for microsoft software. Every piece of microsoft software must provide a ps interface. It's an engineering directive.
That's all correct and it is the right way to do things (especially from Microsoft's perspective). However, the main goal of Powershell seems to be providing a scripting language that can automate Windows internals and not a shell in which you live in. Powershell is just a nice REPL, not so much a shell as you might be used from Bash. We have had Powershell for 10 years now. Has it taken off in a big way? No. The adm…
Powershell is designed for devops and admin work. I wouldn't use it for anything else.
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#238Btw did anyone noticed that in windows 10 you can resize cmd.exe to more than 80 characters width! When I first saw it I almost cried.
And you can use Ctrl+C Ctrl+V :) If you upgraded from a previous Windows you need to disable legacy mode.
most of the other shortcuts don'T work though.
i miss ctrl-d for example
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#239Windows fan here. I hate PowerShell and I'd much rather have Bash built into Windows. Things I hate about PowerShell: - You can't even run your own scripts without performing the Set-ExecutionPolicy ceremony first or signing your scripts. - It's way too verbose. - It's a strange bird that next to nobody uses, so there's zero motivation to learn it. - It's not "old reliable". You can't depend on it working due to the…
Java developer here, multi-OS fan. I'm using both PowerShell and bash from Windows Ubuntu subsystem. I prefer PS on Windows because I do like its object pipeline, but have to use bash for some cross-platform automation.
Re: Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build
#240It would be nice, if they would improve the terminal window a bit with tabs and the like (like Gnome Terminal for example).
Meanwhile, Gnome Terminal has been taking away the tabs...
Yeah, I haven't liked many of the changes in Gnome over the past few years. Terminator as a terminal emulator has been rock solid though. Highly recommend it.