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Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by cmcluck »

gtaylor wrote: post #17

Pardon me if this is somewhere right under my nose, but what is it that Heptio will actually do to "Bring Containers to Enterprise"? Will they maintain a commercial Kubernetes spin, ala Tectonic? Are they going to be mostly about consulting? Will they sell any add-ons?

[disclosure: Craig -- CEO] to name a few 1. support and services. this is a really important factor for most enterprises; they want to know they have expert staff on call who have a decent shot at getting a change they need upstreamed. 2. consolidation and operations at scale. turns out Kubernetes is being deployed as a 'devops tool' today and people create lots of teensy clusters. we built it to be super flexible and work either for smaller clusters, or work at scale (using namespaces, etc). there are advantages to running larger expert operated clusters (borg style) and we want to help enterprises get there with consolidation and operations tools. 3. integration tech. there are oceans of 'legacy' systems that basically run enterprise today and need to be integrated with. 4. help with for non-Google environments. despite the fact that there are tons of interested commercial parties in K8s, except for a few awesome community folks companies aren't putting a ton of resource into AWS, or OpenStack, etc and do unglamorous testing work, etc. Would love to help get the cloud provider model sustainable, and put effort into doing stuff like testing and better deployment tech.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by jbeda »

(I'm the Heptio CTO)

Some other pointers that give context here:

My blog post on my motivations: https://www.eightypercent.net/post/another-leap-heptio.html

The press release: https://blog.heptio.com/founding-members-of-kubernetes-team-...

Blog post: "Cloud Native Part 1: Definition" https://blog.heptio.com/cloud-native-part-1-definition-716ed...

Guest article (from Craig): "Cloud Native: Service-driven Operations that Save Money, Increase IT Flexibility " http://thenewstack.io/towards-cloud-native-operations/

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by jbeda »

SEJeff wrote: post #40
Perceptes wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this is just some people who helped start the project when they were at Google, and both of them have since left. Kubernetes is managed by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, and a very large number of companies are involved in managing the project's direction with an open governance model. There are diverse enough interests already that there isn't really any risk of one company's interests driving the…

I think you're undervaluing Joe Beda's work. Him, Brendan Burns, and Craig Mcluckie founded kubernetes. They didn't just help start the project, they started the project. Subtle, but notable difference. Otherwise, you're spot on!

To be clear -- Kubernetes was built on ideas that were proven out at Google over 10 years. While it was a new code base, those ideas were the product of a cast of (literally?) thousands.

What Brendan, Craig and I did was (a) meld those ideas with the external-to-Google world (including Docker), (b) motivate releasing it as Open Source (not the default model for Google TI) and (c) work to seed a really open community that we wanted to participate in.

Soon after we started some other folks from around Google and beyond joined in. From Google, those include Ville Aikas (not super active these days, doing other stuff at Google), Tim Hockin, Brian Grant, Dawn Chen, Daniel Smith. Most of these folks had worked on Borg and/or Omega. From outside Kelsey Hightower got involved very early (long before Kubernetes was a thing for CoreOS) and the folks from RedHat (led by Clayton Coleman). I'm sure I'm forgetting folks but hopefully that gives some context.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by pm90 »

hueving wrote: post #2

And it begins. The birth of a company with a direct conflict of interest in making Kubernetes so simple to use/administer that you don't need to pay another company for 'enterprise support'. This happens quite frequently with open source infrastructure. Keep an eye on them to push back against improvements that directly conflict with their company's "enterprise sauce".

Not necessarily. Kafka started at LinkedIn and the founders left to found confluent. They've been pretty good about keeping stuff open source.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by skj »

manojlds wrote: post #29
erikb wrote: post #20

Isn't Kubernetes used 100% at Google, IBM etc? Isn't that already Enterprise? What is the market Heptio is targetting here?

Kubernetes is not used by Google. They have a whole different system - Borg and Omega. Google Cloud does offer hosted k8s though.

No omega, just borg.

Re: Kubernetes Founders Launched Startup Heptio to Bring Containers to Enterprise

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Post by philips »

vuyani wrote: post #28

I hope they make it easier too. Theres no documentation what so ever for installing kubernetes on coreOs yet they endorse using coreOs

The CoreOS site maintains guides for various options: https://coreos.com/kubernetes/docs/latest/

I would love your feedback on the mailing lists or twitter: https://coreso.com/community

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