Microsoft Replaces Command Prompt with PowerShell in Latest Windows 10 Build

Post by captainmuon » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:33 PM UTC

cm2187 wrote: post #60

pawadu wrote: post #11

So basically instead of doing dir C:\ I have to learn to type List-Directory-With-Files Drive=C Folder=/ (made up example, but you get the point)

Being verbose would be a good thing (more readable than a cryptic acronym) if there was auto-complete support. A console should really be a small IDE that gives live feedback on what arguments are possible in the current context, etc. But that's not the way powershell was designed.

    dir | sort 

Post by ryao » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:33 PM UTC

ygra wrote: post #58

Diti wrote: post #35

Something that irks me is how PowerShell’s default aliases take precedence over binaries in the PATH. To be able to use the GNU utils, you have to put this in your profile.ps1 : Remove-Item Alias:cat Remove-Item Alias:cp Remove-Item Alias:curl Remove-Item Alias:echo Remove-Item Alias:ls Remove-Item Alias:man Remove-Item Alias:mv Remove-Item Alias:pwd Remove-Item Alias:rm Remove-Item Alias:wget

Isn't that always the case, that shell built-ins take precedence over things elsewhere in the system? On Unix you have to call them with their full path, e.g. to get the system echo instead of bash's you need /bin/echo, I guess. On Windows you can add the extension, i.e. use ls.exe instead. Even cmd shadows programs that have the same name as a built-in, e.g. echo.exe must be called as such and just echo will use the…

Post by ygra » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:34 PM UTC

kabdib wrote: post #22

dfcowell wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PowerShell is fully backwards compatible with cmd. Try again.

No, it's not. PowerShell has aliases like 'dir' and so forth, but it's definitely not compatible. This will break a bunch of legacy stuff. That stuff probably deserves to be broken; the cmd.exe syntax has always been pretty disgusting.

Post by pritambaral » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:39 PM UTC

Aaronepower wrote: post #79

mhd wrote: post #53

By the way, where does the capitalized kebab case come from? Prior art or just Microsofts general hankering for capitalization (e.g. C#s Class.DoSomething() vs Java's Class.doSomething())?

What you're thinking of is PascalCase https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PascalCase

Post by noja » Fri, Nov 18, 2016, 2:40 PM UTC

poizan42 wrote: post #12

godzillabrennus wrote: post #5

Just another reason to stay away from Windows as a platform. Windows 10 is a moving target if you are trying to work with it.

How is that any different from Linux distributions camping their default shell? Like back when debian changed their default shell to dash I don't remember anyone saying you should stay away from debian, even though it broke a lot of existing scripts.