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Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by norswap »

valarauca1 wrote: post #95
tomp wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What choice do we have? All other operating systems send your information either to NSA or China. State surveillance reigns supreme.

FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and Linux don't.

Well except that they have vulnerabilities that the aforementioned agencies can exploit. So pragmatically, it's the same thing.

Even disregarding vulnerabilities, these OSes are not secured by design. Keeping your OS secured is a strong trade-off with convenience.

Although I guess that if you use OpenBSD, that's a strong signal that you want to go the extra mile in the direction of security.

Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by justin66 »

pawadu wrote: post #87
qznc wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family#Commerci... > OKL4 shipments exceeded 1.5 billion in early 2012, mostly on Qualcomm wireless modem chips. Other deployments include automotive infotainment systems. > Apple mobile application processors beginning with the A7 contain a Secure Enclave coprocessor running an L4 operating system. This implies that L4 is now shipping on all iOS devices, the total shipmen…

So we have 2-3 very niche deployments. Does it really make L4 popular in embedded systems? Also, OKL4, specially the version claimed to run on qualcomm is very different from the original L4 (I say claimed since multiple attempts to reverse engineer qualcomm baseband firmware showed no traces of OKL4) edit: if you think this is incorrect please provide a valid counterpoint. downvoting a post this way to hide its pres…

It runs on billions of baseband processors. It's popular by any sane definition of the word.

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Post by at-fates-hands »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #88

Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.

This is the first thing I thought of tbh.

I've been slightly paranoid after it was revealed that Kryptowire discovered backdoors in some Chinese made smartphones:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-s...

It was not a bug. Rather, Adups intentionally designed the software to help a Chinese phone manufacturer monitor user behavior, according to a document that Adups provided to explain the problem to BLU executives

Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by illumin8 »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #106
illumin8 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should look at this as it really is: Russia is super paranoid, and increasingly isolationist. Putin is also realizing that all of his technology comes from western companies, and they are trying to build their own, so that they aren't so reliant on Cisco routers, Intel CPUs, and Apple smartphones. This will be a russian OS, designed to allow russian companies to buy routers, switches, and firewalls that are not ma…

There is no reason why both cannot be true. You should expect that there are FSB accessible backdoors/0-days.

Absolutely, but it's also helpful to understand why an FSB/KGB aligned company would be building their own OS from scratch anyway, when they could just adopt any BSD or Linux-based OS with a permissive license.

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Post by Dolores12 »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #88

Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.

I prefer the FSB to have access to my files than NSA. What FSB can do to me? Send to Guantanamo?

Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by at-fates-hands »

a1a wrote: post #90
EugeneOZ wrote: post #88

Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.

Any reliable source? This is quite the accusation

The Company Securing Your Internet Has Close Ties to Russian Spies: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/cybersecur...

Kaspersky Lab: Based In Russia, Doing Cybersecurity In The West: http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/08/10/431...

Russia’s Top Cyber Sleuth Foils US Spies, Helps Kremlin Pals: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/

Global Cyber Security Firm Kaspersky Denies KGB Ties and Helping Russian Intelligence: https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/global-cyber-security-fi...

Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by Dolores12 »

a1a wrote: post #90
EugeneOZ wrote: post #88

Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.

Any reliable source? This is quite the accusation

It's another FUD. Keep in mind that Kaspersky lab have found EQUATION Group, no one else could.

Re: Kaspersky OS

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Post by at-fates-hands »

IshKebab wrote: post #80
kriro wrote: post #24

No word on if this is FLOSS or not in the article so I'm assuming it'll be something closed. Which essentially renders the entire exercise moot form my POV. I also don't like how they mentioned Linux. They make it sound as if (a) Linux is very insecure...I'm no expert but I'd like to see them prove their system is more secure than a Linux distro dedicated to security. (b) Linux is the only viable option. There's plen…

Linux is very insecure. Maybe you have not been following the news lately.

But comparatively speaking is still more secure than Windows or OS X?

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Post by skywhopper »

Dolores12 wrote: post #115
EugeneOZ wrote: post #88

Only use it if you want to send all of your information to FSB (modern KGB). Evgeniy Kasperskiy has friends in government, police and FSB. He also is apologet of state surveillance.

I prefer the FSB to have access to my files than NSA. What FSB can do to me? Send to Guantanamo?

They can all of your files over to Wikileaks.

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Post by tomp »

seanhunter wrote: post #105
tomp wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What choice do we have? All other operating systems send your information either to NSA or China. State surveillance reigns supreme.

That's a bizarre accusation and very easy to fact-check for yourself. It's trivial to run a packet sniffer and see all the information being sent out of your network. I know for sure that my apple and my linux boxes aren't making any network connections that I don't understand.

Huh - I was merely repeating parents (admittedly ridiculous) accusation.
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