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Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> controversial topics like [..] Climate Change You're making me sad on a Friday afternoon.

Let's reformulate it then: topics where some actors have a strong incentive (monetary or emotional) to manipulate other peoples opinion.

I guess that's better :)

To expand a bit on my previous comment, the sad part is that even though we know that the topic is not really controversial scientifically, we somehow, subconsciously, refer to it as one.

Elections and all that.

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #55

I understand that this is an early implementation. Nevertheless, I have a question: how does it make sure the site you receive is actually the a) correct one (someone could distribute incorrect pages e.g. about controversial topics like North Korea or Climate Change; or inject some malicious code that e.g. uses your account to submit changes to wikipedia) b) most recent one (or at least a reasonably new one). I imagi…

> controversial topics like [..] Climate Change You're making me sad on a Friday afternoon.

Absolutely correct!! You can't call 'Climate Change' a controversy now that we all are facing the consequences already!!

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> controversial topics like [..] Climate Change You're making me sad on a Friday afternoon.

Absolutely correct!! You can't call 'Climate Change' a controversy now that we all are facing the consequences already!!

My coworker doesn't "believe" in global warming, but i have some sympathy on the lack of belief.

I know that for most topics i make uninformed decisions based on the information created/curated by intelligent people. Eg, global warming, vaccinations, etcetc. Sure, some of it may seem obvious, but lets be honest - i have no clue about what a vaccination does in the body, nor how climate change works. They're not school-yard topics, i'm a moron when it comes to them.

So, i play the numbers and base my understanding on a large consensus of educated people. As with the case of climate change. My coworker believes roughly the same, but unfortunately he chooses to believe "scientists who revoke climate change". He has some weird things to say, but ultimately he is doing the same thing as me.

The only thing that bothers me on this subject, is we both believe in green energy, reducing pollution, and etcetc. We have basically the same opinions on what we should be doing for the environment (reducing pollution/etc) and how important it is. Yet, he still believes it is a hoax. That part i don't understand.

Why would climate change be a hoax? Who is making money off of a "climate change hoax"? I don't get that part.. hell, part of the problem with green energy was that it didn't exist because no one was making money off it.

Anyway, /rant. All i mean to say is that people on other sides of the fence likely aren't all that different than you.. well, unless you're a researcher in the field of climate change, of course.

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #32

We'd be better off by putting wikipedia on IPFS and IPFS into p2p cache.

The problem is that it requires installing third-party software to function (the IPFS client) or putting load on some IPFS gateway.

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #65
post #32

We'd be better off by putting wikipedia on IPFS and IPFS into p2p cache.

The problem is that it requires installing third-party software to function (the IPFS client) or putting load on some IPFS gateway.

Not necessary. Either Wikipedia can help out with hosting their own gateways in addition to the ones running on ipfs.io, OR they can include a js-ipfs node in the browser.

Re: WikipediaP2P

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely correct!! You can't call 'Climate Change' a controversy now that we all are facing the consequences already!!

My coworker doesn't "believe" in global warming, but i have some sympathy on the lack of belief. I know that for most topics i make uninformed decisions based on the information created/curated by intelligent people. Eg, global warming, vaccinations, etcetc. Sure, some of it may seem obvious, but lets be honest - i have no clue about what a vaccination does in the body, nor how climate change works. They're not schoo…

Views don't have to be binary like "it's a hoax" or "the end is near". In between those 2 you have stuff like:

   - World may be warming but I don't believe we should act yet
   - World may be warming but I don't believe the actions we are taking make a difference
   - World is warming but I don't believe we know whether the result will be necessary a "bad thing"
   - World is warming but I don't believe we know the main cause
   - World is warming but I don't care what happens in 100 years
   - World is warming but I feel we should wait longer to see if models are correct before spending money on it
   - I feel humans overestimate their ability to model the future
   - I feel there are bigger problems we should be tackling..
...and a million other reasons. I don't believe global warming is a hoax, but a combination of reasons like the ones above makes me personally not worry or care about the issue.

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #66
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that it requires installing third-party software to function (the IPFS client) or putting load on some IPFS gateway.

Not necessary. Either Wikipedia can help out with hosting their own gateways in addition to the ones running on ipfs.io, OR they can include a js-ipfs node in the browser.

>Wikipedia can help out with hosting their own gateways

Which kinda defeats the point of saving bandwidth on their side.

>js-ipfs node

That could work, though I was under the impressino that the js-ipfs implementation was WIP/Experimental (last I checked)

Re: WikipediaP2P

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post #55

I understand that this is an early implementation. Nevertheless, I have a question: how does it make sure the site you receive is actually the a) correct one (someone could distribute incorrect pages e.g. about controversial topics like North Korea or Climate Change; or inject some malicious code that e.g. uses your account to submit changes to wikipedia) b) most recent one (or at least a reasonably new one). I imagi…

> controversial topics like [..] Climate Change You're making me sad on a Friday afternoon.

You know how I know you're in Europe? Because the idea that it's controversial in the US hasn't already numbed you.

And that it's still morning here on the east coast :)

Re: WikipediaP2P

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So if I wanted to donate my computing resources and bandwidth to hosting this, should I just install the plugin and leave chrome running on my "server"?
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