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Re: Airbnb expands to experiences

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Post by [deleted] »

mzemel wrote: post #47
bsimpson wrote: post #37

I just got an EULA-wall asking to agree not to treat anyone on Airbnb "with bias or judgment" based on their origins. That's not how bias/judgment work. You can't just agree to be unbiased, though you can certainly try to be aware of your biases and to be accordingly more sensitive to situations where you may be biased. I wonder what the impact of this is. So many people blindly click "Agree" when presented with lega…

They are not asking you to be unbiased. They are asking you not to treat others with bias. Thoughts vs. actions.

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Re: Airbnb expands to experiences

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Post by malloryerik »

malloryerik wrote: post #80
hueving wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Back in the USA, what percentage of Trump voters do you imagine hold passports? Sure, correlation is different from causation, but still... About the same percentage as Hillary supporters? In my experience holding a passport is more correlated with income than any particular political leaning. What they do is likely a lot different (e.g. religious mission vs French wine binge), but there is nothing particularly Demo…

I'm not quite sure that the numbers are as equal as you might think. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/03/americas... Also we should note that being Republican and bring a Trump supporter aren't necessarily the same thing.

Btw most of the Trump supporters I've met overseas have had tied to the military.

Re: Airbnb expands to experiences

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Post by kriro »

40acres wrote: post #64

I think this is cool, I wanna go urban gardening with Ron.

I also thought that was the most interesting of the featured experiences. Actually gardening with anyone is probably a really great/fun social experience (I'd assume I do pretty much no gardening outside of some indoor experiments).

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Post by malthaus »

bogomipz wrote: post #54

Why not just go out and have your own experience and be guided by your own sense of adventure? Rent a bike and just explore. Stumbling upon new things without an app or a guide book is one of the greatest joys of traveling. The usual response to this question is "well I only have a few days or my time is really limited." Which means you aren't going to "live like a local anyway" if you only have 72 hours. The places…

It's not an authentic experience if you can't easily share it on facebook or instagram!

Going back to the old philosophical question: Do you really travel if nobody sees your pictures of doing it?

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Post by stpe »

bsimpson wrote: post #37

I just got an EULA-wall asking to agree not to treat anyone on Airbnb "with bias or judgment" based on their origins. That's not how bias/judgment work. You can't just agree to be unbiased, though you can certainly try to be aware of your biases and to be accordingly more sensitive to situations where you may be biased. I wonder what the impact of this is. So many people blindly click "Agree" when presented with lega…

The thoughts behind this is published in an article on their site (https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/1405/airbnb-s-nondiscrim...), also the the external review and report (http://blog.airbnb.com/fighting-discrimination-and-creating-... ) is worth a read.

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Post by icebraining »

ecesena wrote: post #46
bsimpson wrote: post #37

I just got an EULA-wall asking to agree not to treat anyone on Airbnb "with bias or judgment" based on their origins. That's not how bias/judgment work. You can't just agree to be unbiased, though you can certainly try to be aware of your biases and to be accordingly more sensitive to situations where you may be biased. I wonder what the impact of this is. So many people blindly click "Agree" when presented with lega…

I think you're reading a bit too much in it. Say you hate Italians with a passion and I send you a request. You can surely tell me no, politely declining with any excuse you like. What you can't do is reply me in an offensive way, asking me for more money or anything else which strictly related to your hate. Or at least, you can but if you do that they can now ban you from the service. I was pretty surprised when I f…

I don't think so, they have been criticized for enabling hosts to make decisions based on racist prejudices, not for the messages exchanged.

I would expect AirBnB to try to cover itself by looking at the patterns of acceptances/declines by the hosts and correlating them with the apparent ethnicity of the guests.

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Post by GuiA »

visarga wrote: post #73
GuiA wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> to instead live the same lifestyle as the citizens of the countries we visit: Stay in a neighborhood instead of a high-rise hotel, shop at the same grocery stores, eat the same home-cooked meals, get around via the same transit, I mean as high-fidelity as is reasonable Until one of you gets severely sick or something like that, in which case you'll be very happy to not live like a local anymore and fall back on you…

So, people wanting to learn about the world should go to Somalia and North Korea to round up their experience?

The notion of global citizen is misguided in the first place, because there is no global entity to be a citizen of, at any socio economic level that matters.

Sure you can say that you're a creature of Mother Earth, we're all brothers and sisters united by a common bond, all that; at the end of the day you're still paying taxes to a very specific, non "global citizen" government, and depending on that government for basic services like healthcare or educating your kids.

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Post by bambax »

Alex3917 wrote: post #48
bsimpson wrote: post #37

I just got an EULA-wall asking to agree not to treat anyone on Airbnb "with bias or judgment" based on their origins. That's not how bias/judgment work. You can't just agree to be unbiased, though you can certainly try to be aware of your biases and to be accordingly more sensitive to situations where you may be biased. I wonder what the impact of this is. So many people blindly click "Agree" when presented with lega…

It's interesting to me that we hold AirBnB to one standard and Tinder / OKCupid to a completely different one, even though they're both essentially apps for finding someone whose house you can sleep in.

Funny. The first thought that came to my mind when I read AirBnb expands to "experiences" was prostitution.

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Post by shard »

chris11 wrote: post #6

Interesting. A startup, BeSomebody, actually just pitched this item on SharkTank. His presentation did not go well at all, and he got no money. But the idea seems really cool. So I'm glad Airbnb is implementing it.

I was a co-founder of a startup which had this concept back in 2011. There must have been some sort of global zeitgeist or something because during that year over 40 competing startups showed up all over the world. Only a few survived, and unfortunately my startup was not one of them. Even the ones that did survive never did that well, Vayable and Viator got acquired, and some small time sites are still dragging on.

I am curious whether AirBnB has a different take on it. The major problem is that it is hard to deliver on that promise and implication of an authentic experience from a local who is more interested in showing you his/her world than money. Actual individual tour guides have scheduling issues due to them having lives and jobs outside of giving tours, which then makes the system favor organized tour operators, and we go back full circle to big tour groups.

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Post by paglia_s »

diggan wrote: post #7

Funny, the experience of "Send yourself an SMS to get our new app." instead of just linking to Google Play for people in Spain is that it doesn't accept spanish number format. Instead it asks for one extra number and if you pad it with a zero, it throws an error "Unfortunately, a server error prevented your request from being completed". So much for the Airbnb experience. Even better that if you turn of JavaScript, t…

From my smartphone it shows Google Play and App store badges, maybe it's from the desktop only that it asks for your mobile number?
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