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Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

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Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

#11
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wikileaks released information the timing of which was clearly meant to influence the US elections in a very particular way. Secondly, Assange issued statements clearly indicating his intentions to harm Clinton, not promote transparency. Why would the NYT publish this obvious garbage without counterpoint?

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

#12
Wikileaks has released some important things, but they should be embarrassed that they thought the personal emails of Hillary's campaign staff saying sometimes silly things to each other was at all newsworthy. It was sensational, sure, but it revealed nothing important or even interesting. Anyone who spends a moment considering the question would expect campaign operatives to gripe about their opponents in over the top terms, to use unthoughtful language and spitball dumb ideas to their boss. Turns out the Clinton campaign did these things. The DNC emails showing that they preferred a solid Member of the Democratic Party win the nomination over someone who has not spent decades supporting the party should surprise and upset no one. And without the context of seeing Trump's campaign staff's emails or the RNC's emails in a similar perspective, the release of so much pointless but unflattering material related to Hillary and the Democrats does a major disservice to the public.

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

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A friendly reminder that there has been no proof that Julian Assange is alive, for quite a while. Also their 'insurance' file hashes no longer match the files. And the latest messages are not digitally signed. Also there was a set of moderators added all over related subreddits to suppress this.

It seems as though he's alive and it would be quite a massive conspiracy if he turned out not to be:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/prosecutor-arrives-to-...

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

#14
I'm not really sure what high and mighty role wikileaks can claim. Most major journalism outlets have ways for submitting information online anonymously. With their editorial standards they can avoid many of the (in some cases deadly) mistakes wikileaks has done by publishing blindly.

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

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A friendly reminder that there has been no proof that Julian Assange is alive, for quite a while. Also their 'insurance' file hashes no longer match the files. And the latest messages are not digitally signed. Also there was a set of moderators added all over related subreddits to suppress this.

LOL, he was questioned just two days ago by Swedish lawyers: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/14/europe/julian-assange-question...

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

#16

"Some have accused us of being pawns of the Russian government, but this misrepresents our principles and basic operations. ...We prefer not to know who our sources are; we do not want to.." So they prefer to be unwitting pawns? Transparency is great, freedom of information is great, but is there some point at which you have to step back and acknowledge that you're being used by a foreign power? Doesn't that undermin…

You are saying we should ignore the abuses of our ruling power because some foreign ruling power is rumored to expose them?

I don't want to live in fascism just so the communists don't win, that doesn't seem like a worthwhile tradeoff.

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

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A friendly reminder that there has been no proof that Julian Assange is alive, for quite a while. Also their 'insurance' file hashes no longer match the files. And the latest messages are not digitally signed. Also there was a set of moderators added all over related subreddits to suppress this.

That seems out of the blue, to me, though I don't follow it (my soul died long ago with seeing how bad this corruption is).

What indications are there you think he might have been murdered? Edit: Got trolled I think.

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

#18

"Some have accused us of being pawns of the Russian government, but this misrepresents our principles and basic operations. ...We prefer not to know who our sources are; we do not want to.." So they prefer to be unwitting pawns? Transparency is great, freedom of information is great, but is there some point at which you have to step back and acknowledge that you're being used by a foreign power? Doesn't that undermin…

governments can leak information with or without the help of wikileaks. all wikileaks cares about is complete transparency and access to information.

if Wikileaks lets itself be used to prefer political candidates then they are failing in this mission.

Re: Why the World Needs WikiLeaks

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"Some have accused us of being pawns of the Russian government, but this misrepresents our principles and basic operations. ...We prefer not to know who our sources are; we do not want to.." So they prefer to be unwitting pawns? Transparency is great, freedom of information is great, but is there some point at which you have to step back and acknowledge that you're being used by a foreign power? Doesn't that undermin…

You are saying we should ignore the abuses of our ruling power because some foreign ruling power is rumored to expose them? I don't want to live in fascism just so the communists don't win, that doesn't seem like a worthwhile tradeoff.

I'm not saying that at all.

What I'm saying is that WikiLeaks' guiding philosophy as espoused in this article seems almost willfully naive.

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