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Keybase chooses Zcash

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Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#121
I have read almost all comments, and it seems like nobody has pointed out that the supposedly anonymous transactions (using z addresses) are still not working. All mining pools are warning about it. For example:

http://zcash.flypool.org

If anonymity is so important for people, there are already excellent solutions, Monero being one of the best, if not the best, with a strong and serious dev team.

Disclaimer: I am not a Monero dev and I own a huge total of 0.6 XMR. This is only my opinion as a software dev.

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#122
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Max price was almost $2,000,000 per token, someone actually literally spent that much. No. When zcash was trading at such a price, it was less than a single zcash coin in total. So a few people were paying significant sums for very small fractions of a zcash coin, but no one payed 2,000,000 for a single coin. The price has crashed because supply has grown exponentially. What you were seeing was supply vs demand in a…

I did not mean to suggest that a whole $2M was dropped, but someone did buy a fragment for $2M per coin. These people buying it hopefully would have been aware of the publicly known upcoming inflation, the fact that they bought at these prices I believe is a tragedy and a black mark against Zcash.

It might make sense for receivers of the Founders Reward to pay such huge sums, even knowing full well that the price can only go down. They would keep buying coins while the price slowly drops, just to make the eventual floor, where more people will consider it a bargain, higher than it would be otherwise. It's all about creating a perception of value.

There is no tragedy here, IMO. Just some calculated market manipulation...

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know, but you're both talking about different things. It may be 20% for the next few years, but it's also 10% overall. You're both right, why even try to nitpick over these details or correct anyone?

You're some random on HN. Peter Todd is a core developer who works on software that runs a billion Dollar economy (Bitcoin), and is also one of the 6 people involved in the ZCash trusted setup. I think you need to stop talking and start listening, because the economics at play and the framing of the founder's reward is critical. Downplaying the 20%, when it is a massive sum that could be used to significantly bolster…

It wouldn't be a cryptocurrency post without someone invoking the cult of personality.

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#124

Author here. Seeing some of the discussion go down on Twitter, I feel maybe I should explain further the "white supremacist" example in the post. (one tweet at me: "So now you can hide the fact that white supremacists are sending you money? F!@#ing weird example.") When I shared a draft post with some friends, a lot of them had an ah-ha moment, so I was hoping for the same from others. I was trying to illustrate 2 pr…

Yeah I get that part, but why would you go out of your way to keep a copy of Atlas Shrugged in circulation?

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#125
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered supporting a stealth address scheme for Bitcoin? The problem is reuse of addresses, period. Bitcoin has solutions for this.

Zcash's anonymous transactions are much more expensive CPU-wise to verify and aren't pruneable, and the cryptography behind it has been much less reviewed (Bitcoin operates on a bunch of very boring standard already established and long-trusted algorithms in comparison!), so I'd be surprised if an established project like Bitcoin adopted them before they were proven in practice. There's a lot of money tied up in Bitc…

Stealth addresses don't use any new cryptography, aren't computationally expensive, and require no changes to bitcoin consensus or policy rules.

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#126
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://archive.is/wdNh3 http://archive.is/vnmkv

Thanks very much for this. Based on the one or two private individuals featuring on both lists, I'm inclined to think your original post was exceedingly strongly worded.

Did you read the blogpost? It's basically a Zcash presskit - note the surely calculated title, and the omission of any actual "anonymous" competitor coins in the first paragraph as well as the entire article, all at a time when ZEC price is in free-fall.

It might even be worse if it wasn't as such - a security-oriented business that, motivated by Bitcoin's shortcomings, does due diligence on anonymous crypto and genuinely concludes that Zcash, in its current state no less, is the answer? Come on.

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#128
Doesn't anyone else find this post funny for talking about discovery of social graphs while the main product keybase.io offers does exactly this? I mean the entire service acts an a nice centralized graph linking users nyms across various services. Irony much?

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#129
post #98

5 hours and almost 100 comments later no one has pointed out that Zcash and Keybase share the same investors. I am relieved that 'Keybase chose Zcash' purely on merit after an exhaustive and objective selection process, and that this potential conflict of interest is transparently disclosed in the linked adverticle - wait, they did no such thing. Does it concern no one that this security-focused company is shilling f…

Good spot, though not surprising to me. Worth adding here that it also appears Zcash stakeholders have been internally buying/selling their own ZEC at inflated prices on Poloniex to artificially increase both volume and the market price. Whilst perfectly legal, it doesn't enhance a "trustworthy" reputation to me.

The zcash dev team have stated they aren't trading ZEC [1]. You dispute that?

https://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2016-Nove...

Re: Keybase chooses Zcash

#130

Slightly OT, but I realllyy wish Keybase would prioritise email validation so that it could fulfill the much needed role of general PGP key server, with the added "sum of your social identities" assurance.

And that's what I thought Keybase was until this article.

I got myself a Keybase account a while ago; is it reasonable to use it if Zcash is not something I would touch with a ten-foot pole?

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