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Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Tor has zero to do with privacy and everything to do with anonymity.

Nonsense. Protecting traffic from nosy ISPs and carriers is exactly privacy and it's one of Tor's stated goals.

Plaintext over Tor is still plaintext.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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As a UK resident, this irks me beyond belief. It's a sickening invasion of human rights[1]. To echo u/rubberstamps sentiments, it's such that there's been little to no coverage of this in the media. But it's the same everywhere, introduce an encroaching bill, have uproar from those with the heads screwed on (the minority). Let it grow a little stale in the publics eye and keep reintroducing with slight alterations it…

"A new leader will be elected, they'll flip the switch, say that because of the crisis, because of the dangers that we face in the world - some new and unpredicted threat - we need more authority, we need more power. And there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. It will be turnkey tyranny." - Edward Snowden (June 2013)

Right on, except you misspelled "Joseph Goebbels."

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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John Oliver's "Dick Pics" seem like a pretty good argument that can reach average citizens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M

The relevant part is https://youtu.be/XEVlyP4_11M?t=1487 , at 24m47s in. Do average citizens send pictures of their genitalia to people? Are you saying that the gov is downloading everyone's photos, or are you saying they have the capability. I want law enforcement to have the capability to access images pertinent to an investigation when they have a warrant; it seems harmful to justice to prevent that by legislation…

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Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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I've just started out freelancing, this is the kick in the pants I need to fill my downtime.

Fill your downtime with work to fill your pipeline. Unless you plan on selling freelancing services related to anti-surveillance work (Security, building an audience in the area) really filling your time with anything but sales is going to hurt in a years time

If what you do during your downtime is directly related to your work then it can hardly be called downtime, now can it?

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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post #182

As a UK resident, this irks me beyond belief. It's a sickening invasion of human rights[1]. To echo u/rubberstamps sentiments, it's such that there's been little to no coverage of this in the media. But it's the same everywhere, introduce an encroaching bill, have uproar from those with the heads screwed on (the minority). Let it grow a little stale in the publics eye and keep reintroducing with slight alterations it…

I've noticed that Britons, generally speaking, put a lot of trust in authority. They'll shrug it off or rationalize it when their government introduces another perverted law - the NHS works, so it can't be that bad, surely. Britain lacks a sizeable and vocal government-distrusting counterculture like they exist in Germany or the US. How you go about introducing that artificially, I don't know. The frog is being boile…

I think we're fairly moderate people in general, so it's not so much excessive trust as just some kind of tacit understanding that things won't go to extremes because we're British (and also a tendency to avoid extreme reactions). I guess sometimes that's dangerous because there's a faslse sense of security, but perhaps there's other benefits to that.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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The way I read the story, this law which was passed is Modifying surveillance laws, rather than completely Oppressing people with something new.

What can the average British subject do? I know they Do not have the funds nor the legal and political Acumen to do anything about it.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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What is the easiest way to explain to the average citizen that the "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" argument is not a good reason to let the Government keep tabs on your online activities? Most people don't give any thought to online privacy that it truly scares me.

Many of the responses given to this question are fairly weak, eg. "but what if you don't want people to see you naked?". Invasion of privacy affects someone's dignity, sure, but it's the fact that it makes one _politically neutered_ that's the actual issue and is harder to explain.

Here's one response: "Imagine if you ever wanted to join the Occupy Wall Street movement or something like that. All of a sudden the government, who will now see you as a threat, can go through everything you've ever done and hold it against you. Remember that one time you pirated a movie? Jail time. Remember that one time you experimented with drugs? Jail time. They will dig up something from your past and use it against you. Oppression is not a theoretical idea and not only an historical problem. Having all information about yourself available essentially makes you politically neutered."

I'll be putting together a set of real-world examples to further emphasize the point.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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This sounds like a potential (new?) attack type though. Just have software that pings certain illegal websites and bam - the target is now a paedo or whatever the attacker wishes.

Come visit my website! Make sure you have JavaScript enabled, friend! :o)

Overcomplicated, just send 'em an email with an link.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Isn't this sort of thing inevitable? I mean, the more technology advances the easier and cheaper it becomes to build terrorist devices or WMDs. Therefore society, in order to protect itself, has to be vigilant about how the relevant knowledge disseminates. An analogy might be an individual guarding against suicidal thoughts.

More interesting to me is how to create mechanisms to control who gets access to the data and under what circumstances. I think in the UK we have a pretty bad record of local councils and other busybodies using snooping powers not intended for them.

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