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SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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Free, global internet access is the next step toward a smarter, more progressive planet. I don't even care about the speed - if the only thing users could access was wikipedia, I'd still personally donate to the project. I cannot emphasize how important democratizing knowledge is to me (and many others).

Free, global internet access is the next step toward more ads.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #7

Free, global internet access is the next step toward a smarter, more progressive planet. I don't even care about the speed - if the only thing users could access was wikipedia, I'd still personally donate to the project. I cannot emphasize how important democratizing knowledge is to me (and many others).

you could totally do this, almost free. I think the entire (pictureless) wikipedia is ~8gb ? maybe more ? That file could be broadcast over multicast off these things on their unused frames. For instance, the bird knows that when it flies over some impoverished region, there's maybe 0-3 paying customers probably not maxing out the capacity at any given time. They could freely broadcast wikipedia or other educational…

"Current revisions only, no talk or user pages; this is probably what you want, and is approximately 12 GB compressed (expands to over 49 GB when uncompressed)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#En...

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #7

Free, global internet access is the next step toward a smarter, more progressive planet. I don't even care about the speed - if the only thing users could access was wikipedia, I'd still personally donate to the project. I cannot emphasize how important democratizing knowledge is to me (and many others).

you could totally do this, almost free. I think the entire (pictureless) wikipedia is ~8gb ? maybe more ? That file could be broadcast over multicast off these things on their unused frames. For instance, the bird knows that when it flies over some impoverished region, there's maybe 0-3 paying customers probably not maxing out the capacity at any given time. They could freely broadcast wikipedia or other educational…

Some Iranians are already doing basically this with satellite TV equipment: https://www.wired.com/2016/04/ingenious-way-iranians-using-s...

Definitely an interesting idea. Since SpaceX will control the pipe and terminal they could use some of the bandwidth to prime a cache in the terminal with content they know will be commonly accessed.

HTTPS makes doing this transparently difficult, though.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #37

> “Optical inter-satellite links permit flexible routing of traffic on-orbit. Further, the constellation ensures that frequencies can be reused effectively across different satellites to enhance the flexibility and capacity and robustness of the overall system.” Is optical communication between satellites an existing technology that's already known to work, or is this new? Also, is this sort of thing done (or expecte…

This[1] article does a nice job of covering the subject, but in essence, laser-based communication between satellites has been done and it works pretty well.

[1] http://www.osa-opn.org/home/articles/volume_27/may_2016/feat...

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed and very high price.

Doubt it. Elon's made his fortune by replacing existing products with superior alternatives. He's said in every case that driving cost down is one of the most important parts of creating something people want. Why do you think he wouldn't do the same here? He knows everyone hates existing telecoms. He's trying to create a better alternative.

> He knows everyone hates existing telecoms.

Not true everywhere. I'm paying < $40/month for a 100 MBit connection and I don't hate my telecom.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #32

How do you get an uplink? I generally thought of satellites as providing pretty good downlink, but high latency because the uplink was through some alternative network - eg. phone/dsl lines.

High latency was because it was in geosync orbit, not because of the asymmetric uplink. In fact, the asymmetric uplink was to try to improve the terrible latency.

Re: SpaceX plans worldwide satellite Internet with low latency, gigabit speed

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post #32

How do you get an uplink? I generally thought of satellites as providing pretty good downlink, but high latency because the uplink was through some alternative network - eg. phone/dsl lines.

No, phone/dsl lines have very low latency. The latency is purely a factor of time to get to the satellite.

Uplink bandwidth has been an issue in the past (phone/dsl is fairly slow speeds, at least in the places you'd want satellite internet)

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