Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

The .blog Bait and Switch

chrisschidle.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

131–140 of 186 posts

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#131

Post by SapphireSun »

Terr_ wrote: post #76
tracker1 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean, like .co.uk, or .us???

Basically, it'd mean the (virtually impossible) task of deprecating the non-country TLDs with X years before they stop working, and saying: "Okay, .us is managed by whatever infrastructure the USA sets up, and .uk is managed by whatever the UK sets up, etc." So the US might choose to allow cocacola.us, while the UK might have on a grouping scheme like cocacola.co.uk, and meanwhile North Korea refuses outright or insi…

Countries can break up, dissolve, or form too. I'm not sure that making all domains depend on things that exist in the real world is a good idea. They should depend on abstract ideas that are less liable to change and can be resold easily to different operators.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#132

Post by joveian »

dasil003 wrote: post #68
gambler wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNS is a rotten system. From censorship, to ddos attacks, to squatting, to privacy issues with whois, to messed up financial incentives. It's a shame that DNS is a critical part of the internet infrastructure. We should work on getting rid of it.

what's the alternative?

GNS (GNU Name System) or something like it.

https://www.gnunet.org/gns

"Unlike DNS, GNS does not rely on central root zones or authorities. Instead any user administers his own root and can can create arbitrary name value mappings. Furthermore users can delegate resolution to other users' zones just like DNS NS records do. Zones are uniquely identified via public keys and resource records are signed using the corresponding public key. Delegation to another user's zone is done using special PKEY records and petnames. A petname is a name that can be freely chosen by the user. This results in non-unique name-value mappings as www.bob.gnu to one user might be www.friend.gnu for someone else."

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#133

Post by logfromblammo »

logfromblammo wrote: post #58

At this point, this looks ever more akin to charging people to have their phone numbers listed in a phone book. If you don't know what a phone book is, it was the DNS-equivalent of the 1960s. You know those plastic-wrapped bricks of yellow paper that sometimes appear on your doorstep, that you just drop right into the recycling bin? Those things are actually phone books. The phone book is rather simple. Your individu…

To sum up, the .com TLD should likely be split up into separate TLDs, corresponding to the Nice classes for international trademarks.

   1 .chem     16 .book     31 .farm
   2 .paint    17 .flex     32 .bev
   3 .clean    18 .skin     33 .booze
   4 .oil      19 .build    34 .smoke
   5 .drug     20 .home     35 .ads / .biz
   6 .metal    21 .ware     36 .fin
   7 .mech     22 .rope     37 .con
   8 .tool     23 .yarn     38 .tel
   9 .sci      24 .tex      39 .mov
  10 .med      25 .cloth    40 .mat
  11 .env      26 .lace     41 .edu / .fun
  12 .wheel    27 .floor    42 .tek / .law
  13 .gun      28 .toy      43 .hos
  14 .bling    29 .meat     44 .doc / .eco
  15 .music    30 .food     45 .soc / .sec
The clear correspondence between domain and Nice category would make it easier to evict name-squatters that are not engaged in the relevant type of business.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#134

Post by photoGrant »

jen729w wrote: post #101
AndrewStephens wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a .horse domain - I tried every permutation horse puns and in-jokes (my.lovely.horse, etc) but they were all taken by squatters or reserved for stupid prices. Eventually I settled for sheep.horse, which is easy to remember but not much else.

I bought myey.es (Spain TLD) a while back so I have look@myey.es. I'm a hobby photographer, thought I'd use it. Never did. If there are any photogs here who want it, let me know.

Hello! :)

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#135

Post by neoromantique »

SapphireSun wrote: post #131
Terr_ wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically, it'd mean the (virtually impossible) task of deprecating the non-country TLDs with X years before they stop working, and saying: "Okay, .us is managed by whatever infrastructure the USA sets up, and .uk is managed by whatever the UK sets up, etc." So the US might choose to allow cocacola.us, while the UK might have on a grouping scheme like cocacola.co.uk, and meanwhile North Korea refuses outright or insi…

Countries can break up, dissolve, or form too. I'm not sure that making all domains depend on things that exist in the real world is a good idea. They should depend on abstract ideas that are less liable to change and can be resold easily to different operators.

There is .su (Soviet Union) gTLD.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#136

Post by madeofpalk »

stephenr wrote: post #20
echelon wrote: post #11

This seems to have become the de facto pattern with the new gTLD system. A company swoops in and buys a namespace for $200k (or more if there is a competitive bid), and they effectively turn into the cartel equivalent of the domain squatter. You can register your new gTLD for anywhere between $1 and $100, depending on what I suppose they expect their target demographic to be willing to pay. Dot horse is more expensiv…

I wonder how much to buy "my.horse". Then I can setup a sole mailbox "look", and have it auto respond to any messages with "my horse is amazing". I wonder how may will get the joke.

I had to pony up about $200/year for belinda.horse for a friend. Definitely not $20.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#137

Post by pfooti »

echelon wrote: post #11

This seems to have become the de facto pattern with the new gTLD system. A company swoops in and buys a namespace for $200k (or more if there is a competitive bid), and they effectively turn into the cartel equivalent of the domain squatter. You can register your new gTLD for anywhere between $1 and $100, depending on what I suppose they expect their target demographic to be willing to pay. Dot horse is more expensiv…

this is why I ended up with spherical.fish - memorable, my first name is buried in it, and cheap.

also, there's no .cow gTLD so I can't do spherical.cow. Spherical.horse is squatted already.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#138

Post by SrslyJosh »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #13
jklinger410 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a complete state-sponsored racket. There's no way around it. You pay an upfront fee to ICANN and probably some kind of recurring tax and you get to create a TLD. You then sell this TLD for higher prices than ICANN and run a very simple service that processes the transactions. You then take anything lower than a 5 or 6 letter domain that is a word in the english language and define it as a "premium" domain and c…

I have a last name that's extremely uncommon. MyLastName.com was available for many, many years. I thought about buying it a few times in the last 20 or so years but I don't have any use for it so I didn't. Two years ago it was bought by a domain squatter who was probably iterating through the white pages. Now that I can't have it I want it (I guess human nature) but they are asking like $2k for it. It seems somehow…

Welcome to rentier capitalism.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#139

Post by shavingspiders »

guycook wrote: post #121
bradleyjg wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mylastname.com was already gone in 1999, so I had to settle for mylastname.net. Too bad it didn't occur to me to secure it in 1996. If Tucows is willing to sell they certainly aren't publicizing it.

Spare a thought for us Cooks of the world. Four letters, a noun and a verb... After the gTLD explosion I thought I could finally snare a decent one but they all went into the $1000+ category immediately, excepting niches like cook.republican, cook.accountant etc. Luckily some did eventually come down, I managed to get cook.run for a more reasonable $50/year

I managed to have a bit of fun with .party and .science.

firstname.party is great to have.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#140

Post by shavingspiders »

jeremymcanally wrote: post #14

This is very common with these new TLD's. At least they didn't give it to you for a year then jack up the price. I had jacki.party as a fun domain for my wife that she didn't end up using, but after a year the price went from like $29/yr to $2,495/yr. because they decided it was "premium." There was nothing my registrar could do because it was the domain registry who decided that, so I just let it lapse. Why is a ver…

That makes me feel very good that I locked in .party for 10 years and $3/year with Gandi.
Post reply on HN