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The .blog Bait and Switch

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Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#91

Post by cschidle »

savanaly wrote: post #85
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #51

"Perhaps it's not fair to call this bait & switch. Really it was bait & refund"

The article title was a bait and switch! Honestly, I don't know much about the domain registration business but I had always imagined it worked even suckier than the way he describes it working in this case.

When you hand over $250 and they hold it for 3 months with the promise of giving you a shot at an auction, then they cancel the auction... I still call that a "switch".

Still haven't received the refund, by the way.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#92

Post by tobltobs »

I believe this new gTLD registries will manage it to finally sink their own boat. They are behaving so greedy that this new gTLD will never become popular. But then it wont take long until the first registries will close shop and this will be the end of this whole ngTLD scam. Because nobody will invest money to market a domain which might not exist anymore in a few years.

There are some proposed safeguards built into the rules to prevent this meltdown caused by failing registries. But looking at how the industry currently behaves I don't think the will to stand to the rules and grab as much money as they can and leave the sinking ship asap.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#95

Post by walshemj »

stephenr wrote: post #20
echelon wrote: post #11

This seems to have become the de facto pattern with the new gTLD system. A company swoops in and buys a namespace for $200k (or more if there is a competitive bid), and they effectively turn into the cartel equivalent of the domain squatter. You can register your new gTLD for anywhere between $1 and $100, depending on what I suppose they expect their target demographic to be willing to pay. Dot horse is more expensiv…

I wonder how much to buy "my.horse". Then I can setup a sole mailbox "look", and have it auto respond to any messages with "my horse is amazing". I wonder how may will get the joke.

surely my.lovely.horse :-)

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#96

Post by mcguire »

logfromblammo wrote: post #58

At this point, this looks ever more akin to charging people to have their phone numbers listed in a phone book. If you don't know what a phone book is, it was the DNS-equivalent of the 1960s. You know those plastic-wrapped bricks of yellow paper that sometimes appear on your doorstep, that you just drop right into the recycling bin? Those things are actually phone books. The phone book is rather simple. Your individu…

"If you don't know what a phone book is, it was the DNS-equivalent of the 1960s. You know those plastic-wrapped bricks of yellow paper that sometimes appear on your doorstep, that you just drop right into the recycling bin?"

You mean monitor stands?

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#97

Post by ygaels_armpit »

This seems like it has gotten out of control - it is a basic key/value lookup, and we've created a rent-seeking, global series of registries to further suck good money from people.

I worked briefly at a registry - it is money for jam.

I don't know if the DNS protocol and all the related ones are fundamentally broken or need fixing, but it seems to me the problem is ICANN and the web that spreads out from under it.

Why can't we just create an alternate ... distributed naming system, except without the rent-seeking/government ownership attached? I mean, this focus on how important the last bit is is ridiculous, the namespace doesn't have to be artificially restricted, beyond what the protocol might require.

I guess I have a simplistic view and probably lack a bit of history, and there must be something preventing it. Do the top-level servers collude, and help to create something like ICANN, or was it taken out of people's hands etc?

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#98

Post by fapjacks »

eximius wrote: post #69
jeremymcanally wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Start a business with your name, trademark it in a certain domain, file a claim with ICANN. Long process, but might be cheaper. :)

This is, in general, about as sleazy as the squatter.

Exactly. And definitely not guaranteed to work. Just pay a visit to nissan.com and read about the scumbag efforts of the car company to swipe that domain from some random dude who's owned it -- and isn't a squatter! -- for years and years.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#99

Post by korethr »

gregmac wrote: post #70
pavel_lishin wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad that someone snagged hoarse.horse and is doing more with it than I would have. not.horse is available, too, if someone wants to tell that joke via a TLD. And of course, bad.horse is exactly what you expect it to be.

Don't forget to traceroute bad.horse.

That made my afternoon. Thank you.

Re: The .blog Bait and Switch

#100

Post by robalfonso »

ygaels_armpit wrote: post #97

This seems like it has gotten out of control - it is a basic key/value lookup, and we've created a rent-seeking, global series of registries to further suck good money from people. I worked briefly at a registry - it is money for jam. I don't know if the DNS protocol and all the related ones are fundamentally broken or need fixing, but it seems to me the problem is ICANN and the web that spreads out from under it. Wh…

Legal/Govermental/Regulatory issues, someone has to deal with it. No single organization is going to deal with every country and their various legal issues. Registries and Registrars help abstract a lot of that (ICANN definitely doesn't want to deal with it). I don't disagree with the ease of storing a few million records or more. That is not the real overhead and is in reality only a fraction of whats involved.
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