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The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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> get your DE/WM just the way you want it, you can be more productive Does that ever actually occur? My vimrc changes almost on a daily basis, and I'm frequently changing plugins, writing new tools, and creating new aliases all time time. And that's just for my terminal. Having to repeat some of those modifications 3-4 times because I'm using a slightly different terminal app for each individual task would, I think,…

> Does that ever actually occur? My vimrc changes almost on a daily basis, and I'm frequently changing plugins, writing new tools, and creating new aliases all time time. And that's just for my terminal. Don't take it the wrong way, but that sounds like a personal problem ;-) If I were changing my configuration files that often, I would start looking for an environment that worked better for me. My config editing is…

>Don't take it the wrong way, but that sounds like a personal problem

Yes, and in addition one that exists regardless of what OS/WM/DE you're running, since Vim and Emacs configuraion works basically the same whatever platform they're on.

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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That is one of the reasons i like Linux very much! Still, bspwm is my favoriete because i van everything togheter as i want :) And a tilingwm is increasing my workflow! Still considering to leave osx (or called macOS these days) behind. But there is still the osx only software problem.

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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I do not subscribe to the idea that it is a good thing to switch from one DE to another for specific tasks. I think it is better to learn one, master it and stick to it. Otherwise time that should be spent working is spent on tinkering with the DE.

> time that should be spent working is spent on tinkering with the DE

The counterargument is that time spent optimizing your workflow by tinkering with the DE pays off 10x.

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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Well the idea is supposedly that if you get your DE/WM just the way you want it, you can be more productive. Various people have a love for tiling WMs because they can navigate and organize things with the keyboard.

> get your DE/WM just the way you want it, you can be more productive Does that ever actually occur? My vimrc changes almost on a daily basis, and I'm frequently changing plugins, writing new tools, and creating new aliases all time time. And that's just for my terminal. Having to repeat some of those modifications 3-4 times because I'm using a slightly different terminal app for each individual task would, I think,…

There's nothing forcing you to use the native terminal under a new DE/WM. If your neurons have hardened on the gnome-terminal way of doing things, it's no biggie to just keep using that under KDE or openbox or twm or whatever, modulo (maybe) a little twiddling of desktop shortcuts and menu entries and the like.

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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One thing I noticed about installing multiple desktop environment on Ubuntu: they all have different default apps that are always installed. So when you have two desktop environments, you end up with 2 different terminals, 2 different file browsers, 2 different archive managers etc. You could uninstall apps that have the exact same purpose, but it would be nice if there was a formal way for DEs to recognize and ackno…

Most environments will have two packages, like:

  cinnamon-core - Cinnamon desktop environment - essential components
  cinnamon-desktop-environment - Cinnamon desktop environment - full desktop with extra components
If you just want to try out the environment without all the extra stuff, you'd prefer the first package over the 2nd.

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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Edit: Can the downvoter explain their reason? My personal favorite is the LXDE / Lubuntu 16.04 setup. All my subjective opinion, of course: - Sits in the sweet spot for bare bones distro vs batteries included. - Without decorations, I have essentially borderless applications, that I can quickly toggle the titlebars etc. - Kept sane keyboard shortcuts and did not remove them for some arbitrary reasons. Here's a random…

My understanding is that LXDE does not support HiDPI very well because not everything is ported to gtk3. Do you have any experience to share with retina/3K/4K displays and LXDE?

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does that ever actually occur? My vimrc changes almost on a daily basis, and I'm frequently changing plugins, writing new tools, and creating new aliases all time time. And that's just for my terminal. Don't take it the wrong way, but that sounds like a personal problem ;-) If I were changing my configuration files that often, I would start looking for an environment that worked better for me. My config editing is…

>Don't take it the wrong way, but that sounds like a personal problem Yes, and in addition one that exists regardless of what OS/WM/DE you're running, since Vim and Emacs configuraion works basically the same whatever platform they're on.

And now i wonder if this is a contributing factor to a certain big name DE stripping out options...

Re: The Joy of Linux Desktop Environments

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One thing I noticed about installing multiple desktop environment on Ubuntu: they all have different default apps that are always installed. So when you have two desktop environments, you end up with 2 different terminals, 2 different file browsers, 2 different archive managers etc. You could uninstall apps that have the exact same purpose, but it would be nice if there was a formal way for DEs to recognize and ackno…

> ugly politics with nice explanations

And why in the long run OSS will be subverted because it exists to strip free software of politics...

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