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Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Tor has zero to do with privacy and everything to do with anonymity.

Does anonymity not imply privacy?

No, due to browsers leaking data and state actors controlling tor end points.

They still know know someone out there is doing something, and can build ad profiles and threat profiles on them, they just can't link those profiles to you easily: that is anonymity.

Privacy would be inability to build useful profiles.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Will the citizens allow it to be passed if they knew about it via some news source? Of course "news" now a days is about kardarshians or justin beiber than about things that requires serious attention. This may have hardly got tiny little square cm area in newspapers or 30 seconds air time. Thus sinks democracy. People who are informed are way less in number than non-informed people, but all get to vote thus diluting…

> I think there needs to be a law that punishes false information

> Thus sinks democracy.

Fixed the order of statements for you..

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Until VPNs become illegal...

then people would just resort to steganography. it wouldn't be terribly difficult to mask asymmetric traffic that appeared to come from a youtube-like "site", or symmetric traffic that looks like skype video but with encrypted packets inside the compressed video transport layer. This is an unwinnable fight and I can't believe anybody would be stupid enough to try.

the chinese great firewall is quite good on those topics AFAIK

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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How difficult would it be to swamp the monitoring system with noise?

That's what I'm thinking as well. I only need to do a crawler, doing HEAD requests only, piping into /dev/null, in theory.

So all your head requests get filtered out when the db gets queried. Leaving all your gets and posts etc.

Also better hope your crawler doesn't hit any illegal sites (there are loads according to UK law).

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anonymity not imply privacy?

No, due to browsers leaking data and state actors controlling tor end points. They still know know someone out there is doing something, and can build ad profiles and threat profiles on them, they just can't link those profiles to you easily: that is anonymity. Privacy would be inability to build useful profiles.

Interesting. But if someone could remain anonymous, even with a profile being created for that "anonymous entity" and there is nothing tying that anonymous profile back to a real person, that would still seem to be private to me. If the anonymous profile could be connected to a real person, that would seem to be neither anonymous, nor private.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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> Despite the uproar, the government's opposition failed to scrutinize any significant amendments and abstained from the final vote. Killock said recently that the opposition Labour party spent its time "simply failing to hold the government to account". What the hell is the point of the Labour party these days? They are absolutely not an effective opposition. Worthless bastards, one and all.

>Worthless bastards, one and all. Why write this crap? The labour party is the biggest left wing party in Europe, are you saying everyone inside it is worthless?

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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The new Prime Minister Theresa May does not hold any principles that would place limits on the powers of the government. She was a well known "champion of the snoopers charter," (wiki) when she was home secretary. There is a british tendency to be overbearing authoritarians that provides fuel to their various secession movements. Britain is unlikely to maintain its current borders for many years after Brexit.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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As a UK resident, this irks me beyond belief. It's a sickening invasion of human rights[1]. To echo u/rubberstamps sentiments, it's such that there's been little to no coverage of this in the media. But it's the same everywhere, introduce an encroaching bill, have uproar from those with the heads screwed on (the minority). Let it grow a little stale in the publics eye and keep reintroducing with slight alterations it…

This summarizes all what I could not forge into words.

Re: Britain passed the “most extreme surveillance law ever passed in a democracy”

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As a UK resident, this irks me beyond belief. It's a sickening invasion of human rights[1]. To echo u/rubberstamps sentiments, it's such that there's been little to no coverage of this in the media. But it's the same everywhere, introduce an encroaching bill, have uproar from those with the heads screwed on (the minority). Let it grow a little stale in the publics eye and keep reintroducing with slight alterations it…

> But it's the same everywhere, introduce an encroaching bill, have uproar from those with the heads screwed on (the minority). Let it grow a little stale in the publics eye and keep reintroducing with slight alterations it until it passes into law.

So, is this the mere-exposure effect in practice? Or is there another psychological effect at play here?

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