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The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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Well there are no records of any Japanese running around with katanas chopping heads from that time. On the other hand in blindly immigrant accepting Europe though... We learned our lesson since last year.

Are you joking? The Japanese military committed many atrocities in invaded countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

In the USA.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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um, well, if you're going to take it in that direction... FDR was a democrat.

Why do so many people think this is a useful point? Who cares what party someone is in?

that's exactly my point! neither party has some kind of monopoly on intolerant ideas.

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"I'm sad to learn it," he says of the new discovery. "It would be sadder yet to continue to deny that it happened, if, as now seems clear, it did happen. You cannot learn from and correct past mistakes unless you know about them." I wonder if this will ever be said about Snowden in the NSA

the thing some people will learn from this is that they should not trust the census bureau with their information

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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It's not that unusual. The UK's IC codes[1] are more fine grained than those in the US. With all the information organizations have on people, I'm not sure the government having official classifications makes any difference. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC_codes

If my memory is correct, the Japanese census does not collect data on ethnicity/race at all.

That is correct.

It has some downsides. A recent piece of research into racism recently assumed that all Japanese nationals were ethnically Japanese so did not survey them on their experiences with racism. Considering around 1 in 50 children in Japan are 'mixed race' this seems a little off.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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The Obama White House has proposed adding a new racial category for Middle Easterners to the census. It is a poor plan for many reasons; now we have another. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/30/white...

"Middle Eastern" is not a race though. I'm Turkish and we are very Caucasian. :)

> "Middle Eastern" is not a race though. I'm Turkish and we are very Caucasian. :)

"Race" is kind of a silly thing to begin with. For example, "Caucasian" doesn't actually mean "white", even though people use it colloquially as if it were.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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Are you joking? The Japanese military committed many atrocities in invaded countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

I think the GP meant civilian Americans chopping other Americans heads with katanas. Also isn't the katana mostly stabbing weapon? Slicing someone in two requires too much effort IMO.

From the little kendo I did, it's both, but mostly slashing. You wouldn't so much slice them in two as open them up from shoulder to hip, if you can. If you're going for the neck though, the basic technique is throat-stabbing, not slicing the head off. If the enemy has good armor, I guess you'd have to go stabby, I can't imagine a katana can slice through good steel plates (or mail, really).

But 1) the spear is the stabby weapon of choice when not in close quarters. From horseback you'd only use the katana to slice. Certainly, you wouldn't try stabbing someone with a katana from horseback.

And 2) the Japanese mostly didn't have excellent armor. They had shitty iron, so making good steel was very expensive for them. They couldn't have mass-produced steel plate armor.

The amazing thing about katanas is not that they're better than european swords (they're not), it's that they were able to make good weapons at all out of shit-tier iron.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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Why do so many people think this is a useful point? Who cares what party someone is in?

that's exactly my point! neither party has some kind of monopoly on intolerant ideas.

Then why bring it up?

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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Why do so many people think this is a useful point? Who cares what party someone is in?

that's exactly my point! neither party has some kind of monopoly on intolerant ideas.

Then your point isn't related in any way to the comment you replied to, which mentioned neither party.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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A sad chapter in our history. What's terrifying to me is that many prominent people still defend it today . And not just people associated with the winner of the recent presidential election.

Interesting fact: Korematsu v. United States, the Supreme Court decision upholding the internment of Japanese Americans, was never explicitly overruled by the Supreme Court because there has not been a similar controversy before the court.

Re: The U.S. Census Bureau Gave Up Names of Japanese-Americans in WWII (2007)

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"I'm sad to learn it," he says of the new discovery. "It would be sadder yet to continue to deny that it happened, if, as now seems clear, it did happen. You cannot learn from and correct past mistakes unless you know about them." I wonder if this will ever be said about Snowden in the NSA

the thing some people will learn from this is that they should not trust the census bureau with their information

Hopefully the lesson learned is that they should not "trust" any organization, ever. Trust should be a concept reserved for children and Santa.
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