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All in all, a great essay. But: >I’m conflicted about whether gay couples should be allowed to adopt. Why on earth shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to adopt?
If you asked the population if they'd have been happy being brought up by gay parents, the vast majority would say "no".
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I think the reservations are built on a couple things: • It's not hard to argue that it's good for a child to have a mom and a dad. I'm not going to get into such, but whether or not you agree, let's just accept that it's not a wild notion. • Adoption is one of the few places where there's any chance for society to evaluate the fitness of parents before they can have children. Usually it just happens. • A male-male c…
From what I understand, most studies show that the most important thing is for kids to have two parents -- kids raised in single parent households didn't do as well (but I'm not sure how many associated variables were controlled for.) The gender of the two parents didn't seem to have much of an impact.
That's probably more important - having both types of personality present?
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If you asked the population if they'd have been happy being brought up by gay parents, the vast majority would say "no".
And if you asked the population of people who have actually been brought up by gay parents whether they were happy with that situation, my guess would be that the vast majority would say "yes".
Are a truly random sample of children brought up by gay parents? I'd expect some large selection bias there.
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Where, exactly, do you draw the line? Do you want tolerance or support? Gay: Suppose the "gay germ theory"[1] is correct. To allow vaccination/prophylaxis or not? Labor: Freedom to legally organise is to me utterly unobjectionable, but I remember picking up a book on trade unionism in the library once and being completely unable to grasp the sense behind one of the articles in which the authors took it as given that…
Women's: Women make less than men on average. They also make very different choices of what jobs to work in, how many hours to work The problem is not that women make less than men on average, they often make less than men when doing the exact same job, for the exact same hours. and they are much more likely to have interruptions in their career. Did you read the thread about job hoppers, where many men said that job…
I am really suspicious of this, because it simply doesn't match my own experience. I've worked behind a bar, I've been a lifeguard, I've done a few jobs in hi-tech and equality is the norm.
Here in the UK the Office of National Statistics ripped apart Harriet Harman's figures on unequal pay... Turned out to get the political outcome she wanted, she was comparing the pay of female part-time workers to that of male full-time workers.
Incidentally, 80% of those working more than 50 hrs/week are male, and 98% of those killed at work are male.
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From what I understand, most studies show that the most important thing is for kids to have two parents -- kids raised in single parent households didn't do as well (but I'm not sure how many associated variables were controlled for.) The gender of the two parents didn't seem to have much of an impact.
Isn't it often the case though that in gay couples one is more masculine and the other more feminine? Or dominant/submissive perhaps. That's probably more important - having both types of personality present?
It's nice to see so many gay geeks 'come out' on this thread. I had assumed I was the only one. Sexuality is such an infrequent topic on HN.
> I had assumed I was the only one. That's strange then because there are plenty of people here that have stated openly and without reservation that they are gay or transgender. In a population of this size you should be very surprised if you are the only gay person.
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Isn't it often the case though that in gay couples one is more masculine and the other more feminine? Or dominant/submissive perhaps. That's probably more important - having both types of personality present?
No, that is a stereotype. Most gay couples don't look like that.
Whenever I see gay couples on documentaries etc, there almost always seems to be one 'feminine' one, and one 'masculine' one. Regardless of what sex they actually are.
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No, that is a stereotype. Most gay couples don't look like that.
I wasn't talking about 'looks'. I was talking about behavior. Whenever I see gay couples on documentaries etc, there almost always seems to be one 'feminine' one, and one 'masculine' one. Regardless of what sex they actually are.
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Where, exactly, do you draw the line? Do you want tolerance or support? Gay: Suppose the "gay germ theory"[1] is correct. To allow vaccination/prophylaxis or not? Labor: Freedom to legally organise is to me utterly unobjectionable, but I remember picking up a book on trade unionism in the library once and being completely unable to grasp the sense behind one of the articles in which the authors took it as given that…
Women's: Women make less than men on average. They also make very different choices of what jobs to work in, how many hours to work The problem is not that women make less than men on average, they often make less than men when doing the exact same job, for the exact same hours. and they are much more likely to have interruptions in their career. Did you read the thread about job hoppers, where many men said that job…
Could you share any citations?
Thus far, when trying to research this issue, keep running into the well-debunked The 76 cents (or 72 cents or X cents) on the dollar myth that still enjoys popularity amongst feminists.
Unfortunately, that statistic simply compares the earnings of full-time workers with the same job category. It ignores the hours of work per week, experience, danger, and a host of other factors. It quite literally compares the salary of people with years of experience who are working 60 hours a week directly with new hires of the same job title who are working 40 hours a week. It lumps them all together.
Study after study I've seen which have actually controlled for factors such as experience, hours worked, travel required, etc have found very little pay disparity. This NCPA article is a brief explanation of The Wage Gap Myth:
http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba392 http://www.iwf.org/campus/show/18948.html
The Cato institute and others have done more in depth analysis.
All in all, a great essay. But: >I’m conflicted about whether gay couples should be allowed to adopt. Why on earth shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to adopt?
If you asked the population if they'd have been happy being brought up by gay parents, the vast majority would say "no".