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Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #130

I am more than a little disappointed in Snowden for falling for this gambit. Blaming the "fake news on the internet" for the loss to Trump is just the Left's way to divert attention to their own failures to report fairly or even try to understand his popularity without dismissing or smearing everyone as racists, homo-phobes and misogynists. This latest post-election narrative is a ploy, and if it gains any traction,…

The left "soul searched" about the reasons for its defeat for maybe (at most) 72 hours.

They're losing 2020.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

It's time for startup to develop a Chrome Extension to detect fake news on Facebook.

I think it is time for Facebook to develop the "thumb down" button, or some other way to flag fake news.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #187

Well all this political talk gives me some ideas. Is it possible, at this stage, for geographically large countries with very large populations to move forward in a coherent way? All of the better places to live, as rated by purchasing power, health, education, what have you, are either geographically small and or have a small population. China, India, Russia, Brazil, USA - all these big places with big pipulations r…

The smaller the population, the higher the variance. Large countries are not bad, they are average. The worst countries, like the best, tend to be small.

It might still be useful to copy governance structures from these countries, I suppose.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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How much media incompetence is needed to rely on Facebook as serious news source? It's very difficult for me to understand this. And no, I'll gonna continue reading all sorts of stuff posted on Facebook, no matter if Edward Snowden or Hillary Clinton call them "News" or not.

By the way, don't forget to stop relying on Whatsapp, Snapchat and Chatroulette for your News.

Sorry for being so sarcastic but this is just so incredibly stupid. Please make Media (Competence) a subject in all schools world-wide!

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #208
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just on Facebook. I have a close family member who was genuinely excited by Assange insinuating Clinton's camp murdered a DNC staffer (without offering any proof to that effect), simply because it would lower her chances of winning.

Just from a cultural perspective, I feel like worldwide we are again celebrating that "my team at all costs!" mentality that was so prominent during the 1980s. This is not to say that the opinion landscape in other decades didn't have problems; but they were somewhat different in nature.

I was a bit young in the 1980s -- do you mean the capitalism vs. communism divide, or something else?

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

We don't really have an independent press anymore, and blog-sphere can be trivially gamed by interested and powerful actors. Have we as a civilization ever witnessed such a pervasive disinformation culture? I forget who said this, possibly a character in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but the idea was that when a population perceives that the social order is unfair (due to bad faith power actors) the genera…

Issues of going to magazines for current-events aside, I do not understand what your underlying argument is when you say:

   how it glibly notes in passing that DJT denies it
If we step away from the context of what happened, are you stating that anything a politician denies must not be true? If you'd like, I'm happy to go into the context of this as well.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

There was a paper published about how being presented with disconfirming evidence causes people to double down on their belief in a lie if it has an emotional connection with them.

I think it would depend on who is doing it, and how condescending they are.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

Are they changing their mind based on those news? I assume those kind of people don't read news to educate themselves, they use 'news' to confirm the beliefs & thoughts they already have and will likely never change.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that "post-fact world" is even a thing is frightening.

Is the world so radically different in this regard now? I'm not disagreeing outright, but I still think that lies, misinformation and misrepresentation have been a part of human communications since the dawn of time. Remember the chain e-mails that were oh so popular prior to social networks? And before that, before electronics, there must have been a lot of bullshit that was spread in the written word on paper and b…

> lies, misinformation and misrepresentation have been a part of human communications since the dawn of time

Yeah, but they were never shrugged off. Even the worst charlatans insisted they speak the truth; they didn't just go "meh, maybe it's not true after all, what is truth anyway".

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