Google joins .NET Foundation as Samsung brings .NET support to Tizen

Post by jmfayard » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 5:02 AM UTC

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Dart doesn't have the adoption yet and has a different plan when it comes to mobile ( https://github.com/flutter/flutter ). I love Go, but it's not really a suitable language to do UI, or anything that deals with data models. C#, however, is a perfect replacement for Java, most of the times. I would say "it's simply superior in every imaginable metric other than cross-platform implementations of the compiler/VM" but…

Nothing can replace Java for android, unless it can also replace all the libraries current Android application is replying, which is the reason why I believe Google isn't going to switch off Java anytime soon.

Post by ocdtrekkie » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:19 AM UTC

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It definitely didn't start that way. For a very long time, Android didn't have most of the apps iPhone users wanted, especially not back in 2009 when I got my Android. It took time, but it happened. Especially in the case of Tizen, where it could run Android apps, they'd really just need to convince the top 200 apps or so to port over to their store, and that'd get them started pretty well. The challenge is not getti…

This was 2009 and the smartphone was not a mature platform. People still used their computers on an everyday basis and didn't rely on their phones as much. This is not the case anymore. I work at a university where I have network statics for all devices connected and can tell how they are used and what they are used for. People expect certain things from their phones now and if they cant have it they would go somewhe…

Post by flukus » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:45 AM UTC

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.NET would have had a real chance at being the android application platform if it was philosophically in the state that it is today (open sourced toolchain/compilers, open-source friendly MS, Mono/Xamarin in good shape). Moving android away from Java is going to be a big undertaking and I doubt Google will undertake such a huge project only to move away from Oracle and closer to MS. If they ever try to replace Java,…

Silly idea that will never happen, but imagine Google and Microsoft* working together on Android and it becoming actually open (i.e. not a tool to protect google search on mobile) and easily targetable by Java, C#, Go, etc. apps. From a technical point of view it might sound difficult until you realize modern smartphones are veritable beasts compared to computers 10 years ago, and we've had general purpose OSes for d…

Post by flukus » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:53 AM UTC

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While I prefer C#'s delegates/lambdas, there has been an occasional time I've wished for the ability to construct a full instanced object in that case - Java's anonymous inner classes are brilliant at this. Likewise Java's OOP enums (basically singletons) are something I miss too. That's a few small features I notice missing when I switch to C#. Plus, in general I find there's a difference in style. C# libraries tend…

Maven, Ant, and Gradle are also in a class of their own. They help making building Java apps universally extremely easy. C# has an annoying amount of complexity in this area, with a lot of things being built into Visual Studio, and therefore Windows only. “Visual Studio” isn’t a fun build system if you’re not on Windows. And compiling people’s libraries from random repositories over github, bitbucket, etc., only to f…

Post by flukus » Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 7:02 AM UTC

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I like the laptop with a bunch of lovely Microsoft technologies, and then WiX. Please, please die WiX. Imperative XML + non-deterministic execution order + the worst error messages of the entire stack. I love C# and the CLR, but damn WiX sucks.

I haven't done a lot of 'Windows exclusive' development for a while, but something like 6-8 years ago, I was making an installer for a small company that up to that moment, they had to send someone over to spend a whole day installing the software on client's machines. I was strongly suggested to use WiX. I spent 2 months trying to get something to work, but I wasn't able to get nothing truly useful to run. I remembe…