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Don't forget that we have the New Microsoft[tm] ! Source: Hacker News.
Money talks, right. These are paid ads and paid shills/astroturfers.
What an absolutely unfounded and absurd accusation.
Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member
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Do you really think they have changed? They got this "We are good guys now" talk going on recently and I'm not against it, but I have lost all trust in them, they have to gain it back and can only prove themselves with actions now. On a side note, I'm also displeased with microsoft's products I'm almost forced to use. Can you imagine that uninstallation of Visual Studio 2015 from SSD takes 20 minutes? And it doesn't…
Yes, I do think they changed. People come and go and corporate culture changes with them. > I have lost all trust in them, they have to gain it back and can only prove themselves with actions now Question: what actual actions could they take that would cause you to change your mind about them?
> People come and go and corporate culture changes with them
That's what worries me the most. The "cool" guys won't stay there forver. You can never now who will be the next.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member
#163Apparently, being a platinum member entails donating $500k [1], so it's not that big a deal for Microsoft ($85B revenue[2]). And as the article states, there has been negativity in the linux community regarding the old arch-enemy joining their ranks. Looking at the new Microsoft however, I think it's fair to assume that the days of "embrace, extend and extinguish"[3] are over and they are genuinely interested in coop…
Assuming Platinum is the highest membership, wouldn't it be fair to consider the possibility that MS contributed MORE than 500k?
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#166The Linux Foundation troubles me a little. They have vested interest in making sure Linux's copyleft is not enforced. For example, VMWare is part of it, and has used its clout to refuse funding to Software Conservancy, due to the ongoing GPL lawsuit.
I guess the money from the LF is helping pay Linus' paycheque, but it has also become a bit of a lobbying group to steer Linux into more proprietary software.
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#167https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend_and_extingui... Let's see how they'll try the next step.
Extend/extinguish everything that isn't GPLv3, replace whatever is.
Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member
#168Apparently, being a platinum member entails donating $500k [1], so it's not that big a deal for Microsoft ($85B revenue[2]). And as the article states, there has been negativity in the linux community regarding the old arch-enemy joining their ranks. Looking at the new Microsoft however, I think it's fair to assume that the days of "embrace, extend and extinguish"[3] are over and they are genuinely interested in coop…
This is the ultimate embrace, extend move. Hopefully it means MS has reconciled itself to the fact that it cannot easily extinguish Linux. I would expect MS to use this position to divert headlines away from the concept of free software, and toward the MS brand; and to introduce dependencies to third-party software that makes it difficult to extract MS proprietary code entirely from the Linux ecosystem.
I think we need a bot to call EEE every time Microsoft is mentioned.
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#169Microsoft are doing good by supporting Linux and shipping Ubuntu as an option in Windows 10 which is good for developers. In the past Microsoft has released a UNIX based operating system called Xenix and there has also been a subsystem for Unix in previous Windows NT versions. Windows subsystem for Linux https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/07/22/fun-with-t... Xenix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix Microsof…
I think most of us are feeling extremely cautious about the recent Embrace-Extend-Extinguish overdrive.
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#170embrace && extend && extinguish