Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

Post by grzm » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 11:23 PM UTC

empath75 wrote: post #34

electic wrote: post #12

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Me too. I turned it off as well. However, like most, people want to log in and get their views validated. It makes them feel great, feel wanted, and belonging to something bigger. I am not sure Facebook wants this problem to go away.

There really are an amazing number of people who simply aren't interested in understanding the world as it is. I think a big part of it is fundamentally not understanding how the brain works, and that just because your brain presents a convincing reality to you, that it doesn't necessarily coincide with actual reality. People don't understand that intuition can lead you very, very far astray. So they're building up t…

Post by krastanov » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 11:24 PM UTC

ng-user wrote: post #9

gcatalfamo wrote: post #3

Does Snowden really think that the canonical man on the street is here waiting to be advised on this topic? The people who were influenced the most by fake news are those who probably don't even feel there exists a fake news issue.

That last line is the kicker. People are ignorant to the truth and|or simply refuse to believe it for whatever reason.

Post by mzw_mzw » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 11:27 PM UTC

mmagin wrote: post #25

Spellman wrote: post #2

Right. People just need to leave their bubbles, read from a variety of sources, and not rely on their friends for news. Obviously easier said than done. But personally that's what RSS feeds are great for. Long ago in 2011, there was a lovely TED talk about the possible bubbles forming. https://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_b...

Yeah, he wrote a good book, and then started Upworthy, which IMHO is just a source of facebook clickbait.

Post by fixxer » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 11:28 PM UTC

duaneb wrote: post #32

JayHost wrote: post #15

I quit Facebook 1 to 2 years ago. I suppose that's one of the reasons I didn't understand the hatred during the election towards the other side. I don't have a feed of "He's evil" "She's evil". I saw two bad candidates and I understand where people are coming from with their votes. I'd like to see most independents / democratic people unite under a real progressive platform next election and stop the extremist cycle…

> I'd like to see most independents / democratic people unite under a real progressive platform next election and stop the extremist cycle of social issues vs fear mongering. There's virtually zero chance of this happening without another party collapsing first. Hell, even then, independents are harder to herd than cats.

Post by fixxer » Wed, Nov 16, 2016, 11:31 PM UTC

zanny wrote: post #36

duaneb wrote: post #32

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> I'd like to see most independents / democratic people unite under a real progressive platform next election and stop the extremist cycle of social issues vs fear mongering. There's virtually zero chance of this happening without another party collapsing first. Hell, even then, independents are harder to herd than cats.

Its impossible to happen under the system as it is established, but you just needed to push for a constitutional amendment and / or state compact like the one to overturn the electoral college to change the voting system to support either proportional (doesn't work when you elect a single seat like the president) or STV (ie runoff voting). The chance of that happening in the next four years? Really low. About as unli…