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Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

#21
i've been interested in something similar for quite a while, although my conception of it was more along the lines of a browser extension which would identify weasel words, unsourced statements, and alert the user about "experts" who are biased.

i'd be interested in being an editor/philsoopher for a project like this, given that someone would need to determine what counts as bias and what doesn't.

i do think that apps to improve critical thinking are direly needed...

Re: Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

#22

Why is everyone suddenly convinced we can do this now? How do you guarantee your algorithm is without bias?

We go with the assumption that everything is biased. The idea is only to surface the biases so you can make your own informed opinions.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

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> I think it is rare to see some news that is not biased one way or another

I would posit that part of the problem is the implicit assumption that biased != factual. This assumption is true on both sides of the political spectrum, but it takes on a different character for those on the right.

I understand the sentiment that prompted you to post this, I'm just not sure what you propose is any kind of a solution. If anything I believe it may make things worse by affirming the bias != factual assumption.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

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I think the tool you need is "skepticism". Teach people to not rush to ascribe labels to everything they don't like, and to stop ignoring anything that has been labeled as X-ist by their bubble. Teach people to not think with slogans and hashtags or listen to celebrities.

Well, that may work but you also need to have intellectual resources to be able to process all the information and see something for what it really is. Also, people serving news are upping the game by using the latest in psychology research to influence us. We need _somebody_ on our side.

Hmm, i think its a very difficult task. I think perhaps a useful thing would be to intentionally break the bubbles. Something like an inverse-recommendation engine. E.g. instead of "people who read article X also read Y", you say "people who read X did not read Z". Or if you had access to people's facebook likes (does facebook provide an API?) you could find the most anti-correlated users and recommend each other's liked stuff etc.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone interested in building tools for showing bias in news?

#30

> I think it is rare to see some news that is not biased one way or another I would posit that part of the problem is the implicit assumption that biased != factual. This assumption is true on both sides of the political spectrum, but it takes on a different character for those on the right. I understand the sentiment that prompted you to post this, I'm just not sure what you propose is any kind of a solution. If any…

That's an interesting way to look at things. That's what makes HN comments worth reading. What if we show distribution data about bias [as in positive/negative attitude towards a thing or a person] along with article? It's not like I have a solution but I see that there is a need.
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