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What would be required to bring the CLR up to the JVM's legendary level of engineering?
It's already there? The CLR is a well maintained and engineered system. Why do you believe otherwise?
But maybe you're right - it's been a few years since I made a looked at the comparison.
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There’s also the Stream API and lambdas in Java. Operator overloading is probably the worst feature ever invented, same with Class Extensions, reducing readability of code. And with a switch to C# Google would neglect the Java ecosystem on Android, requiring us app devs to rewrite everything again. I’m not sure there’s an upside to switching to C#.
IMO operator overloading is less bad than goto. (C# has them both) C# also has yield, async, structs, reflection on generics, and a number of other features.
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No thanks. I like Java, and esp Java 8 just fine.
Why would someone down vote an opinion that they are okay with Java? It added to the conversation. Personally I prefer C# and Swift to Java but others idea are just as valid.
Paul Graham once said [1]:
I think it's ok to use the up and down
arrows to express agreement. Obviously
the uparrows aren't only for applauding
politeness, so it seems reasonable that
the downarrows aren't only for booing
rudeness.
It only becomes abuse when people resort
to karma bombing: downvoting a lot of
comments by one user without reading
them in order to subtract maximum karma.
Fortunately we now have several levels
of software to protect against that.
Many have taken this to mean that down voting a comment when they disagree with the opinion therein, no matter how well it argues that opinion and no matter how much it contributes to the conversation, is fine.
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Not attacking you opinion at all but I'm a little shocked that someone would have this opinion, I work at a Java shop (using java 8 but I'm mostly now on the node.js side). Java 8 really doesn't have any features that are better than C#'s. Java 8 is missing some pretty major ones, like type inference, automatic getters/setters, LINQ, function passing support that's not brain dead, and a number of of things that make…
Which is why you would use Scala or Groovy.
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Google have not made their own languages Dart/Go official to Android. Why would they make languages other than Java a priority now?
Dart doesn't have the adoption yet and has a different plan when it comes to mobile ( https://github.com/flutter/flutter ). I love Go, but it's not really a suitable language to do UI, or anything that deals with data models. C#, however, is a perfect replacement for Java, most of the times. I would say "it's simply superior in every imaginable metric other than cross-platform implementations of the compiler/VM" but…
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What magic are you talking about? Various .Net frameworks have silly amounts of magic, but C# itself?
When I started going into C# from Java a bit, there were two things slightly annoying me: - Class extensions: I saw code examples online that just wouldn't work for me because the compiler told me a certain method of a built-in class wouldn't exist. After I while I found out that the author of that snippet had used class extensions and not bothered to mention. - The var keyword: While this is sometimes nice for quick…
Dictionary>> foo = new Dictionary>>();
Is prefferable to:
var foo = new Dictionary>>();
What do you get from the former that makes the eye-pain worth it?
Also, the var keyword is necessary for anonymous types if you want to hold a reference to one. And this is a language feature I sorely miss in Java-land.
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Google have not made their own languages Dart/Go official to Android. Why would they make languages other than Java a priority now?
* C# is much more mature * It has an enormous user base * It's not owned by Oracle Not saying they will but those are real possible reasons for Google to do this.
So you replace one lawsuit-happy DB company with... another lawsuit-happy DB company.
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Dart doesn't have the adoption yet and has a different plan when it comes to mobile ( https://github.com/flutter/flutter ). I love Go, but it's not really a suitable language to do UI, or anything that deals with data models. C#, however, is a perfect replacement for Java, most of the times. I would say "it's simply superior in every imaginable metric other than cross-platform implementations of the compiler/VM" but…
I always hear of the JVM's legendary capabilities, the result of so many million engineer-hours baked in. What would be required to bring the CLR into parity with it?
None of them have all those million engineer hours baked in, not even close.
My guess is that the CLR have more man hours spent on than both those two implementations combined.
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No thanks. I like Java, and esp Java 8 just fine.
Not attacking you opinion at all but I'm a little shocked that someone would have this opinion, I work at a Java shop (using java 8 but I'm mostly now on the node.js side). Java 8 really doesn't have any features that are better than C#'s. Java 8 is missing some pretty major ones, like type inference, automatic getters/setters, LINQ, function passing support that's not brain dead, and a number of of things that make…
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When I started going into C# from Java a bit, there were two things slightly annoying me: - Class extensions: I saw code examples online that just wouldn't work for me because the compiler told me a certain method of a built-in class wouldn't exist. After I while I found out that the author of that snippet had used class extensions and not bothered to mention. - The var keyword: While this is sometimes nice for quick…
Interesting. I wonder what would be your opinion on languages with even more magic, like Swift.
Idk about Swift, never used it yet.