Live data from Hacker News

Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

linuxfoundation.org

21–30 of 195 posts

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#21
post #17

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend_and_extingui... Let's see how they'll try the next step.

I really don't see how that strategy would work with open source projects. Wouldn't most contributions for the "extend" phase be open source?

Once open source, it's much harder to extinguish.

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#22
post #6

Embrace(check), extend(check), and extinguish(?)

MS employee here - the new Microsoft is: Enable (make sure open source runs well on MS platforms) Integrate (make sure MS platforms work well with open source) Release (release key MS technology into open source) Participate (commit MS engineers to participate in communities)

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#23
post #6

Embrace(check), extend(check), and extinguish(?)

I don't get why people downvote this post. It's like everyone completely forgot about Halloween documents[1].

We should be very careful with Microsoft.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#24
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure runs on Linux? What? Small portions do, but it's misleading to say it "runs on Linux". Edit: clarifying

Sarcasm? I imagine that they're not emulating the Linux Kernel on Windows... From what I've gathered from job postings and whatnot, their virtualization system is in line with AWS's (Xen) on Linux.

The primary backbone of Azure is an OS known as "Red Dog OS". It's based off of Windows, with much of the core kernel tailored by Dave Cutler.

When you're running Linux on Azure, it's via Hyper-V or rather the Azure flavored form of it. Windows is very much the core of Azure.

Azure Cloud Switch does use Linux - on metal I believe so no virtualization.

Edit: a word

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#25
post #15

I guess the other thread was the one that became the dupe: I'm fairly certain all of 2016 is a mass-hallucination. Or something. In all seriousness though, I don't think this is surprising. Visual Studio on macOS is more surprising to me. Azure runs on Linux and that's a really, really big business for Microsoft. And they've also built a Linux Subsystem into Windows. Rock on Microsoft, rock on.

Azure runs on Linux? What? Small portions do, but it's misleading to say it "runs on Linux". Edit: clarifying

[deleted]

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#26
post #23
post #6

Embrace(check), extend(check), and extinguish(?)

I don't get why people downvote this post. It's like everyone completely forgot about Halloween documents[1]. We should be very careful with Microsoft. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents

Or everyone very much remembers the Halloween documents and it doesn't add anything to the conversation to, without an attempt to say anything substantive about the documents or the current event, remind all of us about something that nobody has ever forgotten. You see four or five of these posts at least on any major Microsoft thread on HN, and they add nothing to the discussion.

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#27
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sarcasm? I imagine that they're not emulating the Linux Kernel on Windows... From what I've gathered from job postings and whatnot, their virtualization system is in line with AWS's (Xen) on Linux.

The primary backbone of Azure is an OS known as "Red Dog OS". It's based off of Windows, with much of the core kernel tailored by Dave Cutler. When you're running Linux on Azure, it's via Hyper-V or rather the Azure flavored form of it. Windows is very much the core of Azure. Azure Cloud Switch does use Linux - on metal I believe so no virtualization. Edit: a word

Ah! Ok, that actually makes a bit more sense... thanks for clarifying! That's actually quite neat then.

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#28
post #16

Hell has frozen over, but that's just my opinion :)

Except that Microsoft is still hostile towards Linux with patents at the same time but no one talks about it.

It's a big company. The people being hostile with patents probably don't talk to the people donating to the Linux Foundation.

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#29
post #16

Hell has frozen over, but that's just my opinion :)

Except that Microsoft is still hostile towards Linux with patents at the same time but no one talks about it.

Microsoft loves Linux (the kernel), but they hate with passion anything userland that could ever have the dreaded "GNU" or "GPL" letters anywhere mentioned.

Re: Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member

#30
post #6

Embrace(check), extend(check), and extinguish(?)

MS employee here - the new Microsoft is: Enable (make sure open source runs well on MS platforms) Integrate (make sure MS platforms work well with open source) Release (release key MS technology into open source) Participate (commit MS engineers to participate in communities)

Nice of you to say but what about this:

https://eugene.kaspersky.com/2016/11/10/thats-it-ive-had-eno...

Obviously Kaspersky isn't open source, but the tiger's stripes certainly haven't changed.

Also, Microsoft bundling Windows 10 upgrade malware into its security update channel has turned me off Microsoft, probably forever. Still don't understand why installing 10 after being told not to isn't a CFAA violation.

Post reply on HN