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Just to give an example of how this would sound if it were reversed: Liberals are inciting violence using paid operatives(probably including the recent riots), have shot Trump supporters, use powerful institutions(Twitter, universities, etc.) to shut down speech they disagree with, and their most recent presidential candidate has historically been opposed to gay marriage and took foreign money from a country that exe…
These are all true, and I'm not a liberal so I'm cool with this. There are things I don't like, such as your complaint about Twitter overstepping it's bounds. Hell, I'll even do you one better. Liberals love pipelining more people to prison, they love unnecessary voter registration beuracracy, and they love supporting institutions that keep the poor poorer and the rich richer. Racism is a bipartisan issue it's just t…
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No, they are posting anti-white bigotry and threats to kill the President. Twitters "cultural background training" for its new mods surely contains the progressive stance that you can't be racist against white people.
How can you be racist against the ruling, privileged class? Sure, white people can have it bad too, but we still have all the privilige and automatic perks. It isn't bigotry as much as self defense against how many white people are still deeply entrenched in racism. As a whole, white people are still oppressors.
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> They actually are racist and nasty people and we shouldn't group them together with other conservative/right/trump voters. This sounds like stereotyping to me.
alt-right by definition is racist and sexist. that is the definition of the alt-right platform.
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They're not being banned for their opinions, they're being banned for their actions on Twitter.
Can you point to some of those actions? I'm having trouble finding any evidence that shows they should be banned. Now, I think their viewpoints are disgusting too. But their views don't affect people, their actions do.
I can't, for the life of me, understand how you can't find evidence (example of Alt-right figurehead Milo Yiannopoulos):
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/leslie-jones-twitter-tro...
Now, whether he should be banned for what he did is up for contention. But he knows what he did, and he knows how he attacked her.
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This is clearly a satirical response to the type of logic used by white supremacists to bolster a concept of genetic superiority over other ethnicities. Imagine just for a moment being black and hearing the inverse of this statement every day online
Have you not heard of the Nation of Islam? You know that the 7/7 Dallas shooter (Micah Johnson) was inspired by black supremacist hate speech, right?
Is it inconceivable that the thousands of police shootings over the past couple years, increasingly public, took a toll on this person who eventually could have become consumed by hate, prior to seeking out groups of others who can relate? That the seeking out of hate groups could be the symptom, rather than the disease?
Personally, I don't find it surprising that out of the millions of black people that have been (and still are) oppressed by the police, that a few of them will be inspired to do something like this by their reality alone, without the need for outside influence.
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Such heavy claims require evidence. Also, it is painting one group as a whole, which reminds me of ...
I don't think it's painting one group as a whole at all. No one is suggesting that all or most Trump supporters are racist. Only that many alt-right figure heads are. It's not a heavy claim. With Steve Bannon being appointed to the upcoming White House staff, there's been a parade of examples illustrating the blatant racism of alt-right figureheads. While I appreciate the sentiment that Democrats lost the election by…
"You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”
- Hillary Clinton, Sep 2016
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How can you be racist against the ruling, privileged class? Sure, white people can have it bad too, but we still have all the privilige and automatic perks. It isn't bigotry as much as self defense against how many white people are still deeply entrenched in racism. As a whole, white people are still oppressors.
Even thinking of "whites" as "privileged" is racism. In reality, different people are different (shocker, I know). Obama's family (half-black) is much more privileged than many white straight men that are homeless. If instead of race you focused on circumstances that actually matter (bad family background, poverty, uneducated, jobless), you'd achieve much more.
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People were blindsided because the majority didn't vote for Trump, but the US's backwards system meant that didn't matter. In a democratic system where everyone's vote was equal, we would not have President-Elect Trump.
How do you know the result of a completely different kind of election? The candidates would obviously campaign differently in the case you are describing.
Trump : 60,834,437 votes Hillary : 61,782,016 votes
Popular Vote result ( as in your vote counts the same as everyone elses ) President Hillary. US System ( the weight of your vote depends on what state you live in ) President Trump.
If you want to break it down further than that, well there is no reason to analyze anything ever because it's always a completely different situation.
People were blindsided because in any measure people consider fair and democratic, Trump would not be president. Trump was president once Ohio, NC and Florida were called for him. The rest of the country didn't matter except for counting exactly how many electoral college votes he was going to get, but we could have stopped counting votes by about 11pm EST on November 8. For the presidential election, it was just a formality after that.