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Twitter suspends alt-right figureheads

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How will this help Twitter turn a profit?

It depends. There are two angles to this that I can see:

A) Twitter has a bad reputation for bullying and harassment; almost any financial analysis I read about Twitter has this as a strong negative. If Twitter is cracking down on this finally, this would help this reputation and potentially it's profit.

(Note that I'm assuming here that Twitter actually is suspending these accounts not because they are alt-right, but because they are bullying or trolling. I know the alt-right has a bad reputation in some sources for engaging in trolling behavior; I do not know whether this applies to the individual accounts in question.)

B) Being a haven for extremely divisive speech tends not to be the type of place that attracts advertising from companies with large amounts of capital; companies like these (larger ones) tend to default to inclusive for obvious reasons (it's better to have a potential customer base of everyone).

I don't like the idea of banning alt-right accounts for the sake of them being alt-right, but I can easily see justifying bans if either a small population harasses a larger portion of the users, or if significant advertising dollars are at sake. Twitter is a business.

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#102
I think the musician Jarvis Cocker explained this best in his song, "Running the World." Particularly the lines, "In theory, I respect your right to exist, I will kill you if you move in next to me."

People love to free speech, except when it involves supporting all the things they don't like. For the record, I don't love any extremes and certainly not the alt-right, but censorship is worse. It is never justified, under any circumstances.

If you don't like something, don't listen. People are and can be protected plenty of other ways, for example by laws against murder. The law anywhere isn't perfect, but censorship is even less so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRGGbyZzuTg

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post #84

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> They actually are racist and nasty people and we shouldn't group them together with other conservative/right/trump voters. This sounds like stereotyping to me.

alt-right by definition is racist and sexist. that is the definition of the alt-right platform.

Do they call themselves alt-right?

edit: honest question

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#104
post #82
post #28

Although Twitter obviously has the right to do this, legally, I don't think it is good. Twitter is esentially a public infrastructure for real-time communication. We have public officials from countries all over the world that use Twitter to communicate to their citizens. For that (and similar) reasons, I would strongly prefer if Twitter didn't go around policing what types of political opions are okay and aren't. Ev…

The very liberal users aren't inciting hate speech, racist, misogynistic, and often times anti semitic attacks on other users en masse

You aren't serious are you? The "alt-right" movement has put out several videos in recent days that shows just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpi3F0E5ro

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The problem with banning hate speech is that it is relative. Next up, books will be banned because they incite alternate opinions.

Yeah... probably not.

You're right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_govern...

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/r/The_Donald has in its sidebar, literally, that people that do not wholly support Trump are not welcome. That being said, I'm okay with that. It's not a place for reasonable discussion, it's just shitpostland. However. Twitter prides itself on being a serious social network with considerations for free speech and the "new media"... being banned from something like that just because of what you believe is silly.

They're not being banned for their opinions, they're being banned for their actions on Twitter.

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#107
post #19

How about suspending people who openly advocate genocide? #killallmen

As an able bodied straight male working in tech, I don't understand how any man can be offended by the killallmen hashtag. I don't feel threatened. They can't even hurt my feelings. Offended men must be very soft and have small dongles.

I remember the die techie scum protests. Vomiting on busses, throwing rocks at bus windows etc. It was very threatening.

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#108
post #19

How about suspending people who openly advocate genocide? #killallmen

As an able bodied straight male working in tech, I don't understand how any man can be offended by the killallmen hashtag. I don't feel threatened. They can't even hurt my feelings. Offended men must be very soft and have small dongles.

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post #99
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They actually are racist and nasty people and we shouldn't group them together with other conservative/right/trump voters. This sounds like stereotyping to me.

alt-right by definition is racist and sexist. that is the definition of the alt-right platform.

Can you provide proof to backup that claim? Seems like a serious appeal to emotion with no actual substance.

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post #8

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think I'd rather have people with extreme opinions talking in the public where they are subject to counter arguments than somewhere less public where their message goes unchallenged.

The next leader of the most powerful nation on earth already elected on a campaign that openly advocated torture and war crimes and made all sorts of racially charged insinuations. The USA seems set to embark on a terrifying policy of mass deportations in a few months. A white supremacist is set to be installed as White House Chief of Staff, and his previous incarnation was as owner of news outlet talking in the publ…

There was more to the Trump campaign than just misinformation on social media. Without wanting to rehash old discussions I think it's fair to say that most of the people who voted for Trump acknowledged his flaws but ultimately found Hillary Clinton less palatable.

Personally I don't think there was a single good candidate on the ballot.

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