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Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 Apple finally decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone. Next step of this internal plan involves processors.

".. content consumption appliances like .."

That's still quite a hyperbole isn't it?

Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Is 3.1/2.1Gbps SSD for content consumption? Edit: Is a super accurate and wide color gamut screen for content consumption?

"Next step of this internal plan involves processors."

What exactly are you alluding to here? Apple designing its own processor? x86 or ARM? Do you think Apple will go through another architecture switch on macOS?

Laptops are going to become even more integrated. That's just physics. Long, wide traces are not good for either power consumption or bandwidth.

But how that will manifest in future MacBooks is hard to say. They could still go for off-the-shelf components and packages (probably Intel will start to deliver processors with stacked or silicon interposer bonded RAM). But it would make some sense for them to design their own processors. Though Intel is still really far ahead in semiconductor process and processor architecture. I'm not sure they can come close enough to justify it.

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I am surprised by few things after newest rMBP teardowns - Battery takes less space, than I thought, just eyeballing it but it seems that in (classic)rMBP battery takes more volume percent-wise. - Battery is smaller by ~10% than non touch bar model (49.2 Wh vs 54.5 Wh) and significantly smaller than the classic rmbps. - Two fans, classics had 1. - Touchbar has speakers speakers under palm rest, and not under grills,…

> 49.2 kWh vs 54.5 kWh

That would be quite the battery. Really, it's 49.2 Wh and 54.5 Wh, not kWh.

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I would have preferred an iphone dock where the touchpad resides, just replace the supplied touch pad with your iphone and you get and additional screen. but they gave us this useless touch screen.

Before I saw leaked photos of the touchbar channel, I had convinced myself that Apple was going to put a screen under the track pad. Oh well.

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 Apple finally decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone. Next step of this internal plan involves processors.

> decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone

I wouldn't go that far, but I would say for a company that likes to shout so loudly about environmental waste they sure like to make disposable unmaintainable devices these days.

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I am surprised by few things after newest rMBP teardowns - Battery takes less space, than I thought, just eyeballing it but it seems that in (classic)rMBP battery takes more volume percent-wise. - Battery is smaller by ~10% than non touch bar model (49.2 Wh vs 54.5 Wh) and significantly smaller than the classic rmbps. - Two fans, classics had 1. - Touchbar has speakers speakers under palm rest, and not under grills,…

> 49.2 kWh vs 54.5 kWh That would be quite the battery. Really, it's 49.2 Wh and 54.5 Wh, not kWh.

Thanks for mentioning. Edited.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might be useless for you, but some people use them. This design decision might be coherent with their main target audience.

That's always a bit double. At one point I appreciate they try to improve the sound (and maybe succeed? didn't hear the last model yet), on the other hand I loathe the marketing 'best sound ever'-like phrases and hope not too many people fall for it, as it is in fact physically impossible to get anywhere near proper source reproduction whith such small speakers placed behind a cover. Then again, as you say target aud…

For me video conferencing on a laptop is a very usual use case, and improved audio makes that better. I don't think I'm the only one.

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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can anybody tell me why Apple didn't try harder to max out the battery?? apparently the 15" version has even more unused space:

https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/15/2016-macbook-pro-non-removabl...

if this is really a compromise to hit some weight target I will have to join the "Apple don't care about the Pros anymore" camp...

Re: MacBook Pro 13" Touch Bar Teardown

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post #10

I told you SSD will be permanently soldered to the PCB, received downvotes in return :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12826005 Apple finally decided with this round of macbooks to shift from producing laptops into content consumption appliances like iPhone. Next step of this internal plan involves processors.

".. content consumption appliances like .." That's still quite a hyperbole isn't it? Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption? Is 3.1/2.1Gbps SSD for content consumption? Edit: Is a super accurate and wide color gamut screen for content consumption? "Next step of this internal plan involves processors." What exactly are you alluding to here? Apple designing its own processor? x86 or ARM? Do you think Apple wil…

>Is 40Gbps Thunderbolt 3 for content consumption?

Considering that using USB3 bandwidth disables WiFi[1], yes.

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

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