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Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by mbrubeck »

BorisMelnik wrote: post #170
asutherland wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're willing to try Firefox Nightly, check out the containers experiment: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Projec... While everything still happens within a single profile, sites in different containers get different storage (cookies, localStorage, IndexedDB, etc.) and cannot see each other.

I think this is great, but is there going to be a simple "sign in" feature similar to Chrome? People just love having their bookmarks / toolbars / etc follow them wherever they go.

You can sign in to a Firefox Account to sync your bookmarks, passwords, history, etc.:

https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/accounts/

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by trymas »

ohstopitu wrote: post #56
Aardwolf wrote: post #24

"Set a preference to have Ctrl+Tab cycle through tabs in recently used order " Finally something that is an actually improved UI feature! Not some "removed status bar and instead hover its info over text you want to read sometimes" or "moved refresh button to different place than before just to annoy you" or similar thing :)

I have this feature in sublime text & Atom and absolutely hate it. I feel like ctrl + tab has to move to next tab & ctrl + shift + tab should move to previous tab (cycle if it reaches the end). I feel like that's more predictable behaviour.

Yes. In iTerm2 as well, (shift+)ctrl+tab jumps across recently used tabs. Holy hell how it's confusing and I am used to use (shift+)ctrl+tab in Chrome so switching between Chrome and iTerm2 while web developing sometimes is frustrating.

If I want to switch between 2 tabs quickly - I set them side by side and it solves the problem for me.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by beedogs »

thewhitetulip wrote: post #167

I find that Firefox has a considerable lag on Macbook 2012 compared to Safari. I wish that would change because I love firefox and don't want to use Safari but Safari is just nimble

I had to stop using Firefox, because the 64-bit version apparently exists only to consume all of the memory on my PCs, not just some of it, like the 32-bit builds would.

I'm using Iron Browser now, which has its own issues, but which at least handles a hefty amount of tabs and some essential extensions without destroying system performance.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by flukus »

acqq wrote: post #60

Still relatively slow startup, even on my quite powerful computer (i7, SSD, 8GB RAM, the second start, everything already cached in RAM, no add-ons or extensions but the defaults, no sessions restored, open to empty tab) I have at least a whole second during which I don't see that the program is starting. At least visibly better than the 49.

Of all the things to optimize, especially on the "modern" web, I doubt startup time is anywhere near the top.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by thewhitetulip »

beedogs wrote: post #173
thewhitetulip wrote: post #167

I find that Firefox has a considerable lag on Macbook 2012 compared to Safari. I wish that would change because I love firefox and don't want to use Safari but Safari is just nimble

I had to stop using Firefox, because the 64-bit version apparently exists only to consume all of the memory on my PCs, not just some of it, like the 32-bit builds would. I'm using Iron Browser now, which has its own issues, but which at least handles a hefty amount of tabs and some essential extensions without destroying system performance.

I use firefox on android and sadly, I have to use firefox on desktop too because of bookmark/history sync, despite the fact that it is slow.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by gmurphy »

ht85 wrote: post #38
Aardwolf wrote: post #24

"Set a preference to have Ctrl+Tab cycle through tabs in recently used order " Finally something that is an actually improved UI feature! Not some "removed status bar and instead hover its info over text you want to read sometimes" or "moved refresh button to different place than before just to annoy you" or similar thing :)

This has been possible for a very long time, as a side-effect of enabling browser.ctrlTab.previews in about:config Glad to see they are paying more attention to this though. Thousands of people have requested that feature for Chrome. To this day there hasn't been (or I haven't found) an official answer and the only way to do it is to use an extension, using an alternative keybind as extensions aren't allowed to inter…

Chrome doesn't add settings for things when extensions can do the job because doing so adds to our support burden and slows further development - it's better to appeal to fewer people and have a simpler and easier/faster-to-maintain product than to appeal to more with higher maintenance complexity.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by TD-Linux »

username223 wrote: post #150
mwexler wrote: post #122

Don't see too many programs going to version 50 these days. Kudos to the team that keeps improving it.

With an aggressively "encouraged" monthly version treadmill, it's less impressive than it might look. If Linux used the same type of software force-feeding, it would be well past version 200 by now.

Er... Linux does use a similar time-based release schedule now, and the minor number has been reset a couple of times to keep it from "getting too high".

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by nicky0 »

Nadya wrote: post #79
pitaj wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't upload subdirectories, so it quickly becomes painful to upload an entire directory of files if it has multiple folders within.

Outside of my personal use cases but I can definitely see how many, if not even most, people would need that at some point. :) Thanks for the response!

Another reason is on macOS where many file formats are actually directory based. (Called 'packages', they are actually structured directories with a metadata bit set.)

For example the RTFD format. This is a rich text document with embedded images. It is actually implemented as a folder containing a RTF file and the images. In the Mac GUI however it appears to be a regular file.

Attempting to upload it on the web would fail without the ability to upload directories. This may well explain why WebKit (being from Apple) was the first to implement this. I bet they needed it for their iCloud web app versions of Pages, Keynote etc.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by bruce_one »

igravious wrote: post #123
bruce_one wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all personal preference, but since Opera 12 I've been addicted to ctrl-tab for most recently used switching (Opera 12 had a nice tab switcher that made the interaction very understandable/manageable), and then alt-tab for switching in "physical" order. (I run a large number of tabs, and quickly switching between two (or a small number) that I've used recently seems to be a common interaction for me - but then be…

I was trying out the new Opera with its built-in VPN and ad-blocking which I thought were nice default features but the tab switching was driving me bonkers! I could not understand it, it was flicking through recently used first you say? I would never have guessed. To me it just felt random. I want ctrl-tab to cycle sanely left to right and shift-ctrl-tab to cycle sanely right to left. The browser equivalent of alt-t…

Fair point about alt-tab; I didn't quite make it clear, but I'm using DWM with the windows-key as meta, so meta-tab switches between two tags (do that infinitely often (ie, not cycling, just swapping)) and meta-[0-9] for general tag jumping.

Hence, alt was just hanging out being useless :-p (I'm like 95% terminal or browser, so it's a great use of alt to me :-) )

Amusingly, last time I used OSX or Windows properly, I got super grumpy about the fact "(alt|mac)-tab" seemed amazingly inconsistent - I think cause I'd try and switch consistently between two windows, and got surprising-seeming results... I somewhat think I had gremlins :-p

(As I wrote this I actually did a few ctrl-tabs and a few alt-tabs... I hadn't quite realise I used both as often/evenly...)

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by bruce_one »

abusque wrote: post #57
ohstopitu wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have this feature in sublime text & Atom and absolutely hate it. I feel like ctrl + tab has to move to next tab & ctrl + shift + tab should move to previous tab (cycle if it reaches the end). I feel like that's more predictable behaviour.

I don't know about Firefox or Atom, but in Chromium you can achieve that via Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl-PgDn.

I know I can ctrl-pgup/down in Firefox (it's the best alternative to alt-tab afaict) but on one of my laptops it's incredibly impractical (pgup/down is way up the top right), and on the other pgup/down is in a practical, but very different, location to tab so it's "disjointed" in my mind (ie "do I want to go mru? ctrl-tab; do I want to go ltr/rtl? alt-tab" they're still in the same area, and hence it seem logical/simple to switch between those options often, whilst pgup/down seems very different?)

(And then meta-tab is also hanging out there, being simple and ready for an alternative context switch (mostly browser terminal).)

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