HP Unveils Mini Workstation

Post by znpy » Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 10:48 PM UTC

gregmac wrote: post #121

Sephr wrote: post #79

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It's a 4-way M.2 NVMe raid card, which HP has ignorantly decided to populate with seemingly mediocre SSDs instead of the current gen flagships from Samsung or Intel. You can remove the included SSDs and populate it with up to 4 960 Pro SSDs for what I imagine would be 14/8 GB/s sequential read/write performance. Unfortunately there's no way to buy it without the included SSDs, so you're better off with the unpopulate…

> Unfortunately there's no way to buy it without the included SSDs Ah, brings back memories of buying HP servers several years ago. The only way to get the servers we needed was to buy servers pre-shipped with inadequate RAM and drives, rip it all out, and then install new drives and new RAM (purchased at the same time from HP, for an inflated price of course). We were left with a pile of essentially useless SAS driv…

Post by shmerl » Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 10:55 PM UTC

nextos wrote: post #135

intrasight wrote: post #82

I don't understand why they didn't use a Xeon e3-1545m, which is a 35-45 TDP part and has adequate graphics for the intended market. If it doesn't support ECC, there's no benefit vs the Intel Skull Canyon. I am in the market for a new dev machine, and I want Xeon and ECC. Just not enough good options currently (unless you build from scratch).

It does support ECC, but I don't understand its thermal design. Probably it's like NUCs, a small box for the sake of prettiness and a tiny-n-cheap fan that will be noisy. It's a shame, because you can passively cool things like a i7-6700T these days without much effort and without ever falling into throttling [1]. Plus, Calyos is about to release a loop heat pipe that will be able to cool massive systems without any…

Post by IanCal » Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 11:03 PM UTC

EdSharkey wrote: post #162

I am hungry for news of HP's "The Machine" or whatever they're calling it, which is the big iron that will leverage and be built around the memristor-based memory. Any progress on that development?

Post by djsumdog » Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 11:14 PM UTC

croon wrote: post #23

By pre-defining specs for the device, you can obviously create a sleak box for it with no wasted space, but I would claim it will always be impossible to create something as powerful as something 4 times its size, given the larger components are still produced, just going off physics. Otherwise no one would still build towers and just use laptops. (Of course more people use laptops, but it's not because of performanc…

Post by jonloldrup » Tue, Nov 15, 2016, 11:30 PM UTC

SwellJoe wrote: post #140

nextos wrote: post #135

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It does support ECC, but I don't understand its thermal design. Probably it's like NUCs, a small box for the sake of prettiness and a tiny-n-cheap fan that will be noisy. It's a shame, because you can passively cool things like a i7-6700T these days without much effort and without ever falling into throttling [1]. Plus, Calyos is about to release a loop heat pipe that will be able to cool massive systems without any…

They specifically mention acoustics in the (long) text about it. I would assume that means they tried to make it quiet. Whether I believe them or not is up in the air, as my last HP workstation was louder than hell.