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Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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I have the Skullcanyon NUC, and this is not comparable. I've been waiting for someone to offer me ECC in a small form factor. This is the first time I've ever seen it.

I also have the Skullcanyon, as a laptop replacement machine. None of my previous personal computers have had ECC RAM, but none have had more than 16GB either. What is your use case that benefits from error-correction, if you please?

It can mess up graphics work and zfs pools.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Fair enough. My main ergonomic requirement for a workstation is zero noise at rest, and reasonable otherwise. I'm interested in seeing what I can get in form factor though.

My goal as well. I think that I assumed (wrongly) that these small form factor computers would be more quiet than a tower.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the rule of thumb is that standard towers can be quieter because unless the SFF computers are passively cooled, larger towers can have larger fans spinning at a slower RPM to move the same amount of air, as well as have larger radiators.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Tangent: I'm curious about HP's hostname taxonomy. I.e. What products or content live under www8 vs www2 or www7. http://www8.hp.com/.. .

Based on a google site: search and an eyeball of the first couple of results pages I'd summarise as

www2 - partnering, alliances education [1] www3 - investor relations, careers [2] www4 - central european languages [3] www5 - japanese [4] www6 - no results found www7 - open vms [5] www8 - seems to be the primary site for english content

[1] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww2.hp.com [2] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww3.hp.com [3] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww4.hp.com [4] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww5.hp.com [5] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww7.hp.com [6] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww8.hp.com

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Is there an obvious reason that they stick with traditional air cooling for this, rather than using liquid cooling? Here's an example of a compact system with liquid cooled CPU and graphics card built using off-the-shelf parts: http://blog.newegg.com/building-a-mini-itx-gaming-pc/ I'd think that at this small size, you'd need really high air velocity to make it work. Coupled with small fans, this generally means the…

I'm not sure there is excessive fan noise here, they have two fans and customized heatpipe design for what, 60W of excess heat at full load?

There appear to be 2 versions of the external power supply, one at 135W and one at 200W: http://www.storagereview.com/hp_introduces_the_z2_industry_s...

The supported E3-1270, 1275, and 1280 are rated at 80W. I'm not sure about the M620 GPU, but since it's the successor to the 45W K620, that might be a good guess. If they need to offer the 200W version, I assume they will occasionally need to handle at least 135W of cooling inside the chassis.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Only 2 USB ports? - Actually, when you click the review picture with the ports, you can't see the 2 USB-C ports and 4th DisplayPort. Web design glitch.

Before clicking: http://store.hp.com/wcsstore/hpusstore/Treatment/HP_Zmini_q1...

After clicking: http://store.hp.com/wcsstore/hpusstore/Treatment/HP_Zmini_q1...

No USB-C ports would be a total deal breaker for me.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Is there an obvious reason that they stick with traditional air cooling for this, rather than using liquid cooling? Here's an example of a compact system with liquid cooled CPU and graphics card built using off-the-shelf parts: http://blog.newegg.com/building-a-mini-itx-gaming-pc/ I'd think that at this small size, you'd need really high air velocity to make it work. Coupled with small fans, this generally means the…

Liquid circulation doesn't actually cool, just transfers the energy to another interface for eventual dissipation into the air.

... which is a pretty good definition of "cooling". All cooling is "transferring the energy to another" something (interface, medium, location).

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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What is the etiquette on posting literal company press releases? I'm not asking snarkily, but mean it as a serious question. I don't want to see an HN that's dominated by ads for the latest gadgets, but I understand that this is something of interest to hackers, and perhaps that criterion dominates all others.

I was a little disappointed when I saw that it doesn't have a release date. Just a "Notify Me" link.

I saw "December 2016" in there somewhere...

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Any idea to which consumer card the Quadro M620 correlates? If it's something halfway decent then it might be a also a much better ultraportable gaming solution for some people than e.g. a NUC. However that also depends on if the Quadro drivers are suitable for gaming or not.

Its desktop variant the K620 performs between a GTX 750 (non-Ti) [1] and a 730 [2], so it doesn't look exceptional. I'd guess around Intel Iris level. [1] http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K620-vs-N... [2] http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K620-vs-N...

Ok thx, that's quite bad. Had expected more, since some smaller notebooks are now getting 1060s. But then this thing would probably be much more expensive.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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> The HP Z2 Mini was designed for the millions of CAD users demanding smaller hardware I'm not a CAD user, but is there really a "demand" for smaller desktop hardware?

Yup, lots of it. Smaller computer means more room for other machines, like larger CNC Mills.
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