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Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Could someone explain a) Why they need so much money? Don't tell me it's to produce some spectacles b) Why they are worth so much? I get that they have an interesting user base (young people), but they are having a hard time making money, aren't they? That $19b WhatsApp purchase hasn't exactly earned a lot of money yet, has it? It's still a very long bet, especially with Facebook being forbidden to collect the data n…

a) also for r&d/acquire technology for AR/VR, we're just getting a taste of where they can go

Need, as in, they couldn't capitalize enough for spectacles to be on store shelves for xmas. Obviously, something is very wrong.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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I'm a professional photographer with about 16K + Instagram followers. I used snapchat to stream behind the scenes photos and videos and retouching tutorials, but that was a black box. Yes, I had comments open and I interacted with my friends and fans, but I couldn't tag anyone, or hashtags, discoverability is a serious issues in that platform. I started using Instagram stories and now I have the same views per snaps…

It definitely sounds like Instagram is a better fit for that. But is that really Snapchat's core use case? There's definitely some overlap in uses, but instagram isn't a complete replacement for Snapchat. And the areas where instagram doesn't cover snapchat, it seems like are snapchat's primary uses.

Use case wherein people get paid, yes.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Maybe I'm alone here, but I love the way Evan and Snapchat, er Snap, communicate as a company. They are incredibly tight lipped, but also very honest and blunt. They've talked about this IPO for years, and made no secret about becoming a camera company.

On the other hand, I find it extremely annoying how Team Snapchat routinely sends elaborately animated pre-prepared snaps that are impossible to make in the official app. Eat your own dogfood, guys!

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Maybe I'm alone here, but I love the way Evan and Snapchat, er Snap, communicate as a company. They are incredibly tight lipped, but also very honest and blunt. They've talked about this IPO for years, and made no secret about becoming a camera company.

I agree. Tight lips with "information leaks", makes for an intriguing situation. Apple is the master at this. They never announce anything but the media's love to search for information(mostly useless, if not leaked by the company's communication's dept) gives then a ton of constant publicity - very smart.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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So people are super hyped about the Snapchat Spectacles. I get the excitement, they are Google Glass at a proletariat price, so owning them doesn't make you a GlassHole. Snapchat is one of the most popular LA Unicorns. Everyone is waiting for them to go public. So how did they release their big hardware add on? Limited time vending machines. They are spinning it as cool, but with XMas, their supposed capitalization a…

My personal hypothesis on this is that they're eating a loss at the price range right now and are trying to figure out if people are interested in the spectacles and at what price.

I've scanned through twitter, they have users driving hours to try to buy them. I'm confident people are super excited. Being in the consumer electronics space myself, it takes about 80% of expected sales as capital to get anything into commercialization. This is just throwing huge flags for me as an investor.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Yet another platform to tickle our narcissism and voyeurism. The fact that this kind of innovation is so lucrative make me despair. And also, get off my lawn !!

At least you can't create news filter bubbles or troll with Snapchat.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

a) To build an ad business capable of handling $100m of ads. You need massive investments in sales, infrastructure, tools, etc. to build a business like that b) They have one of the fastest growing user bases in the social space, their users spends an astounding amount of time on the app (estimated at 30 minutes per day), and their user base is the most targeted demographic for demographics. Also they have literally…

I wonder if the user base that rushes in so fast to Snapchat might not rush as quickly to the next cool app, whenever it pops up.

Especially once it starts getting cluttered with annoying ads.

Or when Mom and Dad discover it and try to move in.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Can some one tell me why they use "confidentially"? When they have been talking about this for months and everyone in the tech/social business knows about it. I guess it's confidential since they didn't blast fireworks and cannons. Anyhow, I say that they will soon(if not now) be known as the cool social network while Facebook will live as the old but reliable techie social network , similar to the Apple/Microsoft de…

Its a type of filing. Confidentially means that we cannot go so EDGAR and look up the filing right now, and they will not need to disclose the documents publicly until very close to the actual IPO. This is a relatively new type of filing that was introduced in the JOBS act, designed to encourage emerging businesses to go public. You can read about the specifics here: https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfin/guidance/cfj…

Thanks, very informative.

Re: Snapchat has reportedly filed confidentially for its massive IPO

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Could someone explain a) Why they need so much money? Don't tell me it's to produce some spectacles b) Why they are worth so much? I get that they have an interesting user base (young people), but they are having a hard time making money, aren't they? That $19b WhatsApp purchase hasn't exactly earned a lot of money yet, has it? It's still a very long bet, especially with Facebook being forbidden to collect the data n…

a) To build an ad business capable of handling $100m of ads. You need massive investments in sales, infrastructure, tools, etc. to build a business like that b) They have one of the fastest growing user bases in the social space, their users spends an astounding amount of time on the app (estimated at 30 minutes per day), and their user base is the most targeted demographic for demographics. Also they have literally…

As a teenager, it's almost constantly open on everyones phone - I wouldn't be surprised if I have it open/constantly checking it over 5 hours a day.
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