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this does not seem interesting to hackers at all
It is if it ships with Linux.
> The incredibly compact form factor resembles more a super computer from the future than a PC of today.
Wow. The Mac Mini used to have a quad core version.
I loved that thing. I used it 24/7 for two years and then sold it for just 250 euro below the original price. Overpriced Macs do have their advantages.
I don't understand why they didn't use a Xeon e3-1545m, which is a 35-45 TDP part and has adequate graphics for the intended market. If it doesn't support ECC, there's no benefit vs the Intel Skull Canyon. I am in the market for a new dev machine, and I want Xeon and ECC. Just not enough good options currently (unless you build from scratch).
It does support ECC - right there on the product page.
No audio output as far as I can tell, and after I plug in my USB keyboard and mouse I'll be out of ports.
So how much RAM could be stuffed in one of these? Edit: The Z2 Mini supports Intel Core i3, i5 and i7 processors, in addition to Xeon E3 processors. It also supports up to 32GB of DDR4 SO-DIMM memory, and the unit can be equipped with Nvidia Quadro M620 graphics with 2GB of memory. (from http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hp-z2-mini-g3-workstation,3... )
Any idea to which consumer card the Quadro M620 correlates? If it's something halfway decent then it might be a also a much better ultraportable gaming solution for some people than e.g. a NUC. However that also depends on if the Quadro drivers are suitable for gaming or not.
[1] http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K620-vs-N... [2] http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-Quadro-K620-vs-N...
Is there an obvious reason that they stick with traditional air cooling for this, rather than using liquid cooling? Here's an example of a compact system with liquid cooled CPU and graphics card built using off-the-shelf parts: http://blog.newegg.com/building-a-mini-itx-gaming-pc/ I'd think that at this small size, you'd need really high air velocity to make it work. Coupled with small fans, this generally means the…
mini-itx computers are small but this thing is tiny in comparison to the average mini-itx build.
I wasn't suggesting that mini-ITX was a substitute. It's only compact for something that uses standard hardware. What I was wondering was why they stuck with air cooling despite using a custom form factor. I presume there are reasons for this --- I just don't know them.
HP does claim that this machine is "63% quieter than a comparable HP business-class mini PC.": http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hp-z2-mini-g3-workstation,3.... My previous experience with HP machines though is that I hate being in the same room as one even when it is at idle. So even if this is 1/3 as loud, it may still sound like a vacuum cleaner.
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It is if it ships with Linux.
I'm sure they're referring to upgradability which is the last attractive feature of desktops. I can't figure out why anyone would care how big their tower is. If you're going to have an array of 6 monitors, I'm sure you've got an extra square foot or 2 for a standard tower that won't lock you into HP components.
No audio output as far as I can tell, and after I plug in my USB keyboard and mouse I'll be out of ports.
USB hub? Many monitors have them these days built in. If yours doesn't, Amazon sells them for barely more than the cost of shipping these days.
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I have the Skullcanyon NUC, and this is not comparable. I've been waiting for someone to offer me ECC in a small form factor. This is the first time I've ever seen it.
I've got one of these: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/qm77/x9... which is mini-itx. Pretty small form factor. Using an M.2 boot drive. Not very cost effective though.
