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Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by pault »

Sephr wrote: post #79
noja wrote: post #62

What's a turbo Z drive? Can I swap it for a Samsung 860 Pro M.2? Can I have two M.2 devices to raid it? I don't want to lose my work. Edit: Liliputing says "There’s a 2.5 inch drive bay for a hard drive or SSD and an M.2 SATA SSD slot." ( https://liliputing.com/2016/11/msi-trident-compact-vr-ready-... )

It's a 4-way M.2 NVMe raid card, which HP has ignorantly decided to populate with seemingly mediocre SSDs instead of the current gen flagships from Samsung or Intel. You can remove the included SSDs and populate it with up to 4 960 Pro SSDs for what I imagine would be 14/8 GB/s sequential read/write performance. Unfortunately there's no way to buy it without the included SSDs, so you're better off with the unpopulate…

Do you happen to know what card that is? I couldn't find it in TFA. I'm not sure about getting the full read/write performance with 4 960s, since I think you'll saturate the bus with 2 or 3.

Edit: tweaktown was able to get 9.2GB/3.8GB read/write on a non-bootable array: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/7553/samsung-950-pro-pcie-...

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by rch »

intrasight wrote: post #82

I don't understand why they didn't use a Xeon e3-1545m, which is a 35-45 TDP part and has adequate graphics for the intended market. If it doesn't support ECC, there's no benefit vs the Intel Skull Canyon. I am in the market for a new dev machine, and I want Xeon and ECC. Just not enough good options currently (unless you build from scratch).

Check out Colfax International. They have some nice workstations that are relatively easy to configure.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by Matthias247 »

Slackwise wrote: post #24

> The HP Z2 Mini was designed for the millions of CAD users demanding smaller hardware I'm not a CAD user, but is there really a "demand" for smaller desktop hardware?

That's also what I'm wondering. For my primary work PC it's: Either it's really portable and has a screen - then it should be small. Or it's not portable - then I don't care as long as it fits on or under the desk.

For some environments however small or invisible hardware and the associated clean look is definitely a bonus: E.g. if it's a PC in your living room (I bought a NUC for that), or maybe for publicly exposed working places (receptionist, ...). But that's not really what is targeted with that hardware.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

xlayn wrote: post #61

HP Mac Mini. This is actually interesting, when Apple switched to max 16 Gb of ram on their PRO line, HP throws something with PRO graphics and Xeon.

Too bad this doesn't have a built in hires display and a keyboard so we could compare orange to oranges.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by vetinari »

Matthias247 wrote: post #86
gjem97 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was looking for info on multi-head support. Where did you see this? EDIT: ah, I see it now. Three dual DisplayPorts: http://store.hp.com/us/en/ContentView?storeId=10151&catalogI...

The pro version has 4 displayports was written on one site. But I guess that means that 6 displays can only be connected at a limited resolution (Full HD?). Wonder if could even drive a 4k screen on each displayport.

It has 3 displayports: http://store.hp.com/wcsstore/hpusstore/Treatment/HP_Zmini_q1...

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by noja »

nkurz wrote: post #85

Is there an obvious reason that they stick with traditional air cooling for this, rather than using liquid cooling? Here's an example of a compact system with liquid cooled CPU and graphics card built using off-the-shelf parts: http://blog.newegg.com/building-a-mini-itx-gaming-pc/ I'd think that at this small size, you'd need really high air velocity to make it work. Coupled with small fans, this generally means the…

That thing doesn't look compact to me.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by NetStrikeForce »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #94
xlayn wrote: post #61

HP Mac Mini. This is actually interesting, when Apple switched to max 16 Gb of ram on their PRO line, HP throws something with PRO graphics and Xeon.

Too bad this doesn't have a built in hires display and a keyboard so we could compare orange to oranges.

I've been looking around my Mac Mini and my friend's Mac Pro for hours now.

I couldn't find the hires display.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by mwfunk »

digi_owl wrote: post #57

Funny how while the PR spiel talks about CAD, the press image is of a stock trader desk.

They probably just wanted to show off the 6-display config for that photo. Stock traders are much more likely to use that particular display arrangement than engineers.

Re: HP Unveils Mini Workstation

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Post by [deleted] »

intrasight wrote: post #82

I don't understand why they didn't use a Xeon e3-1545m, which is a 35-45 TDP part and has adequate graphics for the intended market. If it doesn't support ECC, there's no benefit vs the Intel Skull Canyon. I am in the market for a new dev machine, and I want Xeon and ECC. Just not enough good options currently (unless you build from scratch).

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