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Post by icebraining »

aplummer wrote: post #107
tambourine_man wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not an equivalent analogy. Disabling JS displays nothing at all , while changing text and background color is a progressive enhancement. Content should still be accessible without JavaScript, even if, perhaps, in a less convenient way, i.e., every click reloads the entire page

I disagree with this assumption "Content should still be accessible without JavaScript" in 2016.

It's not specifically against JS, it's a matter of parsimony. One shouldn't require more than what's needed for the job. KISS. Of course, most of us fail to perfectly abide by that, but the principle is solid.

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Post by icoffee »

This was a project built over the weekend to learn some new things. I learned I need to add moderations to the posts :)

I may bring it back as time permits, but wanted to say thanks.

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Post by taneq »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #77
p4bl0 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This point of view forgets the fact that loading 1MB of JS instead of 10KB of HTML is actually a bad thing. It consumes bandwidth and energy, and thus has an effect on the environment, for instance.

I think the pointless act of watching cat videos and pornography has a much more significant effect on the environment. Driving cars, too. By that reasoning, these things must be really evil.

Yeah, but all those things make me happy. Having to wait for a web site to load a full megabyte of useless data for no reason doesn't make me happy.

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Post by FatalBaboon »

codedokode wrote: post #41

Sorry, but I am going to comment on a technical implementation rather than the content of a site. The site shows blank page without JS enabled. I did not understand why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items. Probably it is because the developers were too busy learning trendy JS frameworks and do not know about HTML and server side page generation (in PHP this could be done m…

I have JS enabled but block tracking scripts, and I get a blank page as well.

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Post by fiatjaf »

codedokode wrote: post #41

Sorry, but I am going to comment on a technical implementation rather than the content of a site. The site shows blank page without JS enabled. I did not understand why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items. Probably it is because the developers were too busy learning trendy JS frameworks and do not know about HTML and server side page generation (in PHP this could be done m…

Perhaps the developers were thinking about expanding the functionalities of the site in a way that server-side rendering can't help them, so they started doing it all in JS anyway.

In the future, if the site survives and gets bigger, they will surely think about corner use-cases like yours and work some time in server-side rendering.

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Post by rplnt »

codedokode wrote: post #41

Sorry, but I am going to comment on a technical implementation rather than the content of a site. The site shows blank page without JS enabled. I did not understand why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items. Probably it is because the developers were too busy learning trendy JS frameworks and do not know about HTML and server side page generation (in PHP this could be done m…

> why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items

Ah, this might explain why it's down.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

romanovcode wrote: post #71
mibbiting wrote: post #66

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This is why computers become slower and slower, and people have to upgrade. Because lazy developers make idiotic choices. It's a static list of items. Hardly very efficient to load all that javascript, do a server request, just to display a list is it.

While I totally agree about this site, it's stupid to disregard JS as a whole. Imagine websites like FB without JS - it would be horrible.

This isn't a website like FB.

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Post by nilved »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #65
codedokode wrote: post #41

Sorry, but I am going to comment on a technical implementation rather than the content of a site. The site shows blank page without JS enabled. I did not understand why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items. Probably it is because the developers were too busy learning trendy JS frameworks and do not know about HTML and server side page generation (in PHP this could be done m…

> The site shows blank page without JS enabled. I did not understand why one would need one megabyte of minified Javascript to display a list of 10 items. It's probably because you opted to disable one of the essential web technologies in your browser. Plenty of websites are written as SPAs nowadays. This is like complaining that pages are black on white because you disabled CSS. Or that you can't see websites at all…

If JavaScript is an essential Web technology to you you are a bad Web developer.
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