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Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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post #416

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You seem to get emotional. Because a guy on the internet does not want to by her GF a diamond ring? Why do you care at all?

Getting married is emotional. Shouldn't get married.

Getting married is probably something worth getting emotional about. Strangers on the internet having made different decisions (or even thinking badly about my decisions) probably isn't.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#582

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She deserves to be treated as a possession because somehow the man is expected to shell out all of HIS money for this stupid rock, solely for her benefit. What exactly is SHE contributing to the relationship anyway? Obviously, she has nothing to contribute except being a possession, so she should act like this, because this is the role she is demanding. After all, why isn't SHE blowing 3 months' worth of her pay on s…

I love how questioning a sexist tradition earns me downvotes.

You're not merely "questioning a sexist tradition", you're shoehorning a bunch of other weirdness (and a bunch of assumptions that may or may not hold for any specific couple) around it.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#583
post #385

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Such as? Jewellery is inherently not valuable!

Is a gold ring not worth the gold it's made out of?

But the ring would cost more than the gold contents it contains. And i also stand by the opinion that gold is inherently valueless, and is only valued as a rarity/status symbol.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#584

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Find a documentary about blood diamonds. Find some excuse to watch it while she's around, and don't let her stop you. Swear and say that you aren't going to hurt people for a wedding ring! Say she can have any thing but a diamond! Etc. Good luck with the drama :)

The documentary would have to be from the early 90's since there's almost no blood diamonds in the rough market

That's just clearly false. The Kimberly Process wasn't even introduced until 2003! Why would they have done so if there were no issues in the preceding decade?

Further, Wikipedia has this to say:

"The effectiveness of the process has been brought into question by organizations such as Global Witness, which pulled out of the scheme on 5 December 2011, claiming it has failed in its purpose and does not provide markets with assurance that the diamonds are not conflict diamonds."

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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The value of a courtship gift is its price.

The diamond cartels love this kind of thinking. It should be about value, not price. With a diamond, you are not getting value (except in some rare circumstances involving unusual stones).

It is not a good thing for courtship gifts to have value; if they have too much value they are likely to be dishonestly accepted by someone who isn't interested in the giver but does want the object.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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post #583

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Is a gold ring not worth the gold it's made out of?

But the ring would cost more than the gold contents it contains. And i also stand by the opinion that gold is inherently valueless, and is only valued as a rarity/status symbol.

> i also stand by the opinion that gold is inherently valueless

If you have any gold, I'll take it off your hands.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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> If I purchased an alternative gemstone for my fiancé, her parents would've been upset with me And that would be the right time to let them learn about blood diamonds or give them their much deserved shaming.

Pissing off your potential future parents-in-law will not win you the love of your fiancée. You have to weigh the gains against the consequences.

Sounds like this relationship might be more trouble than its worth, if it means giving up your (sensible) principles.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#589
post #308

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And what color is in her peripheral vision?

Purple from the anger that her boyfriend doesn't love her enough to drop their own personal beliefs, and get that damned rock. For girls, it's not personal, it'd social. If her "friends" are such that they will look down on her if she didn't get a rock, she will insist on one. As a man, you must understand this.

WHy would someone who loves you ever expect you to forego your personal beliefs to prove you love them?

That sounds fucking disastrous.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#590
post #96

I told my girlfriend (5 years) how I feel about diamonds and that I reject the very notion of buying a diamond engagement / wedding ring early on in our relationship. Several months ago, we landed on the marriage conversation, again. I reiterated that I am against diamond engagement bands. She then said: "What about a wedding ring then?" I told her it applies to wedding rings as well. We got into a heated argument an…

Just buy her the diamond! If it's something that she really wants, then don't let your own feelings get in the way of that. Thats really selfish. Kind of the gist of being married is compromise. I mean, seriously, a ring could be had for $3k. You're going to throw away a 5 year relationship with someone you'd like to be married to because you won't buy her something that costs the same as the new stupid MacBook? She'…

This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while.
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