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Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by heisenbit »

johansch wrote: post #12
4ad wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So this is the Romanian guy What relevance does it have that he is Romanian?

Why is it an issue to mention someone's nationality? Do you have perhaps have any pre-conceived ideas around that particular nationality? (Edited out things that should not be offensive, but could be perceived as such.)

What victims were there? My understanding is that there was some game playing with two accounts violating the terms of service. The affected relationship was developer - Apple and Apple has asserted itself here. There was also to the degree I know some misrepresentation of the conflict by the developer.

Afaik. this has not gone to court and both developer and Apple seemed to want to stop talking about it. I believe we should respect this. As we also should respect the nationality and contribution of developers giving away something for free.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by nkjoep »

ihuman wrote: post #18
nkjoep wrote: post #17

I stopped using Dash long time ago. http://devdocs.io/ is enough for me.

Is there a way to open devdocs with a shortcut like Dash?

They suggest this plugins (http://devdocs.io/about):

- Chrome web app

- Sublime Text plugin

- Atom plugin

- Brackets extension

- Emacs Package

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by johansch »

heisenbit wrote: post #21
johansch wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it an issue to mention someone's nationality? Do you have perhaps have any pre-conceived ideas around that particular nationality? (Edited out things that should not be offensive, but could be perceived as such.)

What victims were there? My understanding is that there was some game playing with two accounts violating the terms of service. The affected relationship was developer - Apple and Apple has asserted itself here. There was also to the degree I know some misrepresentation of the conflict by the developer. Afaik. this has not gone to court and both developer and Apple seemed to want to stop talking about it. I believe w…

Anyone who has used the Apple Appstore is fractionally speaking the loser/victim - he spammed it.

Do you ever wonder what the appstore would be like without spam bullshit? How quality software studios could make money instead of some hack like this buying ratings from a third-party on cookie cutter apps?

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by pkamb »

sxg wrote: post #19
flixic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not judge so quickly and surely. There are still many things we don't know, and we have heard a story from him that makes sense, and I find plausible. What if he really is mostly innocent? More importantly, Dash app is still great, probably the best for documentation browsing, and now iOS counterpart is restored in some way. Isn't it a great move from his side, considering the circumstances? Shouldn't we celebr…

He recorded and released a phone conversation with an Apple representative that confirms a lot of the details of this story. Sure not everything is clear, but if I'm remembering right, the phone call confirmed that Kapeli and his family member used the same distribution account, and that the family member bought fake app reviews. Apple banned the whole account because of the fake app reviews, but they did give Kapeli…

> Kapeli decided not to [publicly apologize and clear up the issue] and released the private phone call with the Apple representative instead.

Kapeli wrote the blog post Apple requested and sent it in for review. https://kapeli.com/apple_draft

Apple never got back to him, and instead went to the press with statements that did not mention any of the circumstances, making clear that this was their final statement on the matter. Only then did Kapeli come out with his side of the story and the recorded phone call.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by anthonybsd »

flixic wrote: post #15
johansch wrote: post #6

So this is the Romanian guy who was called out for blaming his "family member" for spamming the app store with paid ratings of his apps, while using his bank account for the Apple Developer connection? ... All after pretending to be innocent and causing many, many developers to rally for him, without knowing he manipulated them? How about we just ignore him and don't continue to reward him with attention?

Let's not judge so quickly and surely. There are still many things we don't know, and we have heard a story from him that makes sense, and I find plausible. What if he really is mostly innocent? More importantly, Dash app is still great, probably the best for documentation browsing, and now iOS counterpart is restored in some way. Isn't it a great move from his side, considering the circumstances? Shouldn't we celebr…

Actually after a little digging it turned out that Kapeli was a shovelware writer who's gone legit. The whole "relative" thing was fully made up:

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-says-1-000-fraudul...

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

#27

Post by LukaD »

kmf wrote: post #3

Pretty interesting - on the Dash blog in October[1], the developer said that open-source wouldn't be a great option because compiling iOS apps is difficult for most non-iOS developers. It's a shame, IMO, that iOS apps only have two wide-distribution models: paid, with Apple, on the App Store, or open-source and, by that nature, free. There's a lot of really great software on OS X that is distributed outside the Mac A…

And for non mac users compiling iOS is not only difficult but also impossible without going through the pain of setting up a macOS vm. I guess I won't be updating dash on my iPhone anytime soon.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by sushid »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #11
diggan wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that iOS apps only have two wide-distribution models: paid, with Apple, on the App Store, or open-source and, by that nature, free. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that's true. Just because it's open source doesn't mean it's free, it just means that technical users could, if wanted, compile it from source. But, especially with iOS apps, this is not even true since you do need to have a developer li…

Here's the correction you asked for :) You don't need developer account to build XCode projects on your phone anymore, you can just sign in with your Apple account and sideload it.

And resign it on your computer every 7 days? Not exactly a walk in the park.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by purple-dragon »

maglavaitss wrote: post #13
johansch wrote: post #6

So this is the Romanian guy who was called out for blaming his "family member" for spamming the app store with paid ratings of his apps, while using his bank account for the Apple Developer connection? ... All after pretending to be innocent and causing many, many developers to rally for him, without knowing he manipulated them? How about we just ignore him and don't continue to reward him with attention?

Yeah, the guy's a fraud, just don't give him any attention.

Despite his past actions, isn't releasing this as an open source project ultimately a generous act? Many people have paid for this product in the past—ergo it has value—and now, it is free for use and modification.

Re: Dash for iOS is now open source

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Post by johansch »

pkamb wrote: post #25
sxg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He recorded and released a phone conversation with an Apple representative that confirms a lot of the details of this story. Sure not everything is clear, but if I'm remembering right, the phone call confirmed that Kapeli and his family member used the same distribution account, and that the family member bought fake app reviews. Apple banned the whole account because of the fake app reviews, but they did give Kapeli…

> Kapeli decided not to [publicly apologize and clear up the issue] and released the private phone call with the Apple representative instead. Kapeli wrote the blog post Apple requested and sent it in for review. https://kapeli.com/apple_draft Apple never got back to him, and instead went to the press with statements that did not mention any of the circumstances, making clear that this was their final statement on th…

That is not an excuse. I can understand why Apple went forward, even after bending backwards to work with him.

(And I'm really not an Apple apologist; please do checkout my post history if you're so inclined.)

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