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Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by digi_owl »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #205
ldfdr wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're confusing being a jerk with communication styles and cultural differences. You'd never hire anyone from the American inner city, from parts of Scotland and Ireland, parts of New York, and similar. Some very nice people talk loudly, swear, and use politically incorrect language. This is part of the reason some URMs can't get ahead in US corporate culture. Yes, Linus does swear a lot, and uses aggressive languag…

Your argument is shit. (Another Linus quote) And here's why. "I'm a bastard. I have absolutely no clue why people can ever think otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is that I'm a scheming, conniving bastard who doesn't care for any hurt feelings or lost hours of work, if it just results in what I consider to be a better system. And I'm not just saying that. I'm really not a very nice per…

Ever heard about irony? Or maybe nordic self-depreciation is not something the SV culture is able to parse.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by beachy »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #219
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #205

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Your argument is shit. (Another Linus quote) And here's why. "I'm a bastard. I have absolutely no clue why people can ever think otherwise. Yet they do. People think I'm a nice guy, and the fact is that I'm a scheming, conniving bastard who doesn't care for any hurt feelings or lost hours of work, if it just results in what I consider to be a better system. And I'm not just saying that. I'm really not a very nice per…

There's this bizarre thing going on on HN, reddit, and other tech sites. We saw it with Linus and we see it again with Trump. Suddenly, all these people are making excuses for terrible behaviors and outrageous claims. Usually following a "he didn't really mean that" playbook of justifications like "productivity" or "politics" like either excuses acting like a child. Why are we afraid to call people out on the shit th…

If you want to join the marines, you'll be screamed at, verbally abused, and generally pushed to your limits. It has to be that way, they are training 18 year olds to run to the sound of gunfire and perform under fire and the threat of death. You must put up with it or you do not belong in that group.

At the other extreme, if you want to join your local flying club, you can expect to be treated courteously. If anyone treats you like an asshole, the problem is with them rather than you. It can be that way, because the group is not trying to achieve anything extreme, its just for enjoyment and largely social.

If you want to join in the white hot stream of activity surrounding one of the world's most important pieces of software, its not going to be like your flying club.

Its not quite the marines either, but it is a place where very complex stuff has to get done, urgently, absolutely correctly, in the face of hundreds or thousands of interjections and "what about" from more or less well-meaning contributors who just don't have or get the big picture in the same way the core of the group does. (Talking about Linus here, not Trump :)

Sometimes, such an environment functions better with a culture of abruptness and "take no shit" is built.

Its very unfortunate for anyone who aspires to join such a group that they have to put up with that. But sometimes we have to acknowledge that that "terrible behaviour" is part of what makes the group work. Not all clubs are suitable for all people.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by sedachv »

ghaff wrote: post #145
eric_the_read wrote: post #136

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32k? Loooxury! We had to bang magnetic rocks together fast enough in order to induce a current on the phone line and we only got 1200 baud and WE LIKED IT. Seriously, 32k in the days of shareware? I think the fastest modem I ever saw (in that era, anyway) was 19.2k, and almost nobody had those. Pretty sure I went from 19.2 straight to ADSL.

>Seriously, 32k in the days of shareware? Yeah, but very latterly. Modems topped out at about 56K (although, in my experience, they rarely connected at that speed). That's the fastest I had before getting broadband in the late 90s. Before that I had 9600 (maybe something else in between), although as I recall there were competing "standards" in the 9600 space.

> Modems topped out at about 56K (although, in my experience, they rarely connected at that speed).

56k modems were actually limited to 53k download and 34k upload: http://www.10stripe.com/articles/why-is-56k-the-fastest-dial... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem#Using_digital_lines_and_...

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by digi_owl »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #239
chc wrote: post #220

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Has Linus ever been rude to you? Have any of your friends complained about taking the brunt of his rudeness? If so, that would be really interesting. From what I've seen, there is basically nobody who has actually complained, "Linus was rude to me." It seems to be a meme that consists almost entirely of putting words in other people's mouths.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 For what it's worth, coworkers have pointed out to me how much of a bully Linus has been. I'm not sure it matters that the bullying wasn't directed at them. Bullying is still bullying. To put it another way, would you want your manager to speak to you how Linus spoke to Mauro? Even if it was deserved? Linus also doubles down and insists it's ok: http://arstechnica.com/information-t…

So the only example we can find is when a senior dev, that should rightfully know the rules of kernel development by heart, is pulling not just one but two rookie mistakes within a short time span? And we do not expect Torvalds to fly of the handle at that?

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Post by Xylakant »

jakobdabo wrote: post #199
Xylakant wrote: post #115

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Indeed, if no MX record is known, but an A record is, mail will be sent to that host. However, example.(com,org) are designated testing domains by RFC and any self-respecting mail server should know not to forward mails there. And on top of that, since the domains are designated testing domains, they do not accept mails.

The right thing to do in this situation is to use RFC 7505[1] (Null MX Records). [1] https://2rfc.net/7505

Cool, didn't know that. Thanks for teaching me something today.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by [deleted] »

jakobdabo wrote: post #199
Xylakant wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, if no MX record is known, but an A record is, mail will be sent to that host. However, example.(com,org) are designated testing domains by RFC and any self-respecting mail server should know not to forward mails there. And on top of that, since the domains are designated testing domains, they do not accept mails.

The right thing to do in this situation is to use RFC 7505[1] (Null MX Records). [1] https://2rfc.net/7505

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Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by vacri »

hackuser wrote: post #182
ldfdr wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're confusing being a jerk with communication styles and cultural differences. You'd never hire anyone from the American inner city, from parts of Scotland and Ireland, parts of New York, and similar. Some very nice people talk loudly, swear, and use politically incorrect language. This is part of the reason some URMs can't get ahead in US corporate culture. Yes, Linus does swear a lot, and uses aggressive languag…

> You're confusing being a jerk with communication styles and cultural differences. I disagree. We always can simply claim 'it's a cultural difference' as an excuse, but that doesn't make it true and it doesn't make the behavior acceptable. Mature people in every culture look to show respect to others. If someone insulted me and said that, I'd think they were irresponsible and a bit slippery. I've lived in some of th…

I agree with you in general, but the 'Torvalds swears' thing that sparked the GP's comment, it is such a trope. He actually is a nice guy and has spent a lot of time patiently explaining things to people - it's just that those comments don't get plastered across gossipy tech websites.

Furthermore, if you think that bosses of companies are polite, you really need to work at more companies, because there's quite a lot of variance. There's a lot of bosses out there with very rough manners. And hell, in some places it was (still is?) someone standard to take business meetings at strip bars.

Similarly, I once worked support at an agricultural telemetry start-up, and swearing was part of the job. Our clients were mostly farmers, and swearing (if they were swearing) helped put them at ease and let us get on with the job.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by deeth_starr_v »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #239
chc wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has Linus ever been rude to you? Have any of your friends complained about taking the brunt of his rudeness? If so, that would be really interesting. From what I've seen, there is basically nobody who has actually complained, "Linus was rude to me." It seems to be a meme that consists almost entirely of putting words in other people's mouths.

https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75 For what it's worth, coworkers have pointed out to me how much of a bully Linus has been. I'm not sure it matters that the bullying wasn't directed at them. Bullying is still bullying. To put it another way, would you want your manager to speak to you how Linus spoke to Mauro? Even if it was deserved? Linus also doubles down and insists it's ok: http://arstechnica.com/information-t…

For those that just click the first link and think that it might be a one time tirade. I have a good friend that has had to deal with him extensively and he sounds like a belligerent a-hat all the time.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by little_data »

Great article thanks! Although the article was about the unfortunate side effect of having contact information publicly available, I also discovered that there is an open source community to establish standards for the back end infotainment systems in cars (and other things). Neat stuff.

Re: “I have toyota corola”

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Post by grawlinson »

atomical wrote: post #150

Off topic, but what's the deal behind the bluetooth audio lag? Does it apply to calls as well? I've experienced it with music. Is this an Android problem or a problem that could be fixed by the automakers?

Pretty common issue with Bluetooth, I've found. Average latency is ~100ms.

Here's a good (albeit brief) read about it.

http://stephencoyle.net/latency/

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