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Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

sorry to attach this to the top post, but how do you actually pronounce moissanite? "moist"(sans 't') + "a" + "night"?

You are correct.

You can hear how it's pronounced in this YouTube clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GFZKPQuAaw

Sol: No, it's a moissanite. Bad Boy Lincoln: A what-in-ite? Sol: A moissanite is an artificial diamond, Lincoln. It's Mickey Mouse, mate. Spurious. Not genuine. And it's worth... fuck-all.

:)

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

Why there's N/A for toughness in Cubic Zirconia?

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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> having to explain to friends and acquaintances why she does not have a diamond. I don't think this is a universal "in America" thing. Maybe in some parts of the country, but here in the northeast it seems like it's none of their business; I can't imagine asking someone to explain it, and I would think someone who did ask was being awfully nosy. FWIW my wife has a diamond ring which she almost never wears, and I can…

My wife and I, living in the SF Bay area and having no regard for convention whatsoever -- and not really liking diamonds -- went with a sapphire for her ring. She tells me that other women do sometimes ask her about it. This is unfathomable to me, but there it is.

same area; we went with ruby. they ask her about her ring all the time... though she reports never feeling judged.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Uhm, well, because I'm having a conversation about cultural differences between the midwest and the north-east. I think it's appropriate to segway into another topic that way. If it's the sarcasm you find inappropriate, I respectfully disagree. If our new president fulfills his promises, friends of mine will be cataloged, deported. My own hopes of US citizenship and the life me and my wife had planned for ourselves i…

>If our new president fulfills his promises, friends of mine will be cataloged, deported. My own hopes of US citizenship and the life me and my wife had planned for ourselves is now uncertain. Are you sure about that? He's already backtracking on ObamaCare, saying he wants to keep parts of it, and the latest news about deportations is that he wants to deport people who have criminal records. Personally, I'm wondering…

You may be right, but "Don't be worried that the president has promised to do horrible, horrible things--he was probably just lying to make racists happy, and anyway he changes his mind at the drop of a hat!" is not exactly encouraging.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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What is the point of this comment? If I design a new type of helmut that was totally awesome, it would rightly be judged against other helmuts. If I buy a stone specifically as an alternative to diamond for jewellery, why would I come up with different criteria?

The point is that these "desirable" attributes were chosen by the diamond industry to promote their own gems. Why is "fire" or "brilliance" the reference by which gemstones are judged by? This mindset is exactly what the diamond industry has created, and the irony is that the author has taken the same sheepish following that diamond customers have.

Probably because those criteria actually look good for jewellery.

Which makes sense, easier to get someone to pay more for a gem they think looks good, than to make them pay more for a gem they don't think looks good.

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> So if she insist, don't be angry at her - be angry at De Beers. By doing so, you're ignoring her agency and her role in the problem. It's not like DeBeers has some kind of mind control laser pointed at the brains of every woman in the world. They put out advertising, and some people fall for it. If you need to be angry about something, be angry about our education system which fails to teach people to think critica…

I'd agree with you if this were any other product. The marketing campaign in this instance was so utterly, totally, disastrously successful that it's become a cultural phenomena. Really, you've got to hand it to them. And I have to agree it's not a fault to be sensitive to the judgement of your peers.

It's still ignoring her responsibility if, when provided with the new information, she decides to ignore it.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Horse meat is quite normal in western culture, unless if by western culture you mean anglophone countries.

I can't reply to stouset for some stupid reason, but why is it "absurd" to not want to eat horse for texture reasons? My understanding is that horse meat generally does not taste that good and is very tough, because those animals get a lot of exercise; it's like deer meat. Some people like venison, and there's no stigma attached to eating it, but it's hard to buy because demand is low (and they're not raised as lives…

Many people wouldn't be able to distinguish from beef. I had it once in Quebec, much to the amusement of a jerk waiter.

It's not tough, just very lean and thus prone to overcooking. Honestly it tasted pretty good, I thought it was grass fed beef.

Venison is a lot gamier. I only like it in stews.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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I can't reply to stouset for some stupid reason, but why is it "absurd" to not want to eat horse for texture reasons? My understanding is that horse meat generally does not taste that good and is very tough, because those animals get a lot of exercise; it's like deer meat. Some people like venison, and there's no stigma attached to eating it, but it's hard to buy because demand is low (and they're not raised as lives…

> I can't reply to stouset for some stupid reason On deeply nested comments, if it hasn't been long since the post was made you have to click the "permalink" ("XX minutes ago" or "XX hours ago") link to reply. I think the extra step is to help slow down flamewars ("do I really need to reply to this comment, right now?".

Hmmm... I didn't know that thanks for the heads up.

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We came to a similar conclusion. Although we had already bought a diamond ring. After researching, we figured out that we could sell our diamond (we only got about 60% of the original price back from a diamond broker) and buy a twice as large synthetic diamond and still save several thousand $. There is only upside as far I can tell: it looks better (clarity), is bigger (no can tell the difference between a real and…

I'm sorry about the 40% haircut. Any jeweler worth doing business with should refund a ring minus the cost to set it. Diamonds cannot be used, as there is no such thing as a new one. Certainly they can be damaged but that's totally different. I figure if you buy something a billion years old and return it a few months later in exactly the same condition, if you can only get 60% back then you dramatically overpaid.

It's a very impressive example of avoiding the sunk cost fallacy, though. I think a lot of people would be unwilling to cop that 'loss', even if they realised it would leave them better off overall. (Or perhaps more realistically, they would be unable to admit to themselves that it would leave them better off.)

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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I sent this to my SO and she now wants one instead of a diamond. Until now, it's been non-negotiable. Thanks for writing. I did not want to buy a diamond :)

> Until now, it's been non-negotiable. I really hate to be a random person on the internet giving personal advice but... diamonds being "non-negotiable" seems like a huge, glowing, neon warning sign. Don't be surprised to find out a bunch of other things are non-negotiable if you divorce.

> diamonds being "non-negotiable" seems like a huge, glowing, neon warning sign

This is dependent on the relationship between the two people. If one party is strongly against the concept of diamonds and DeBeers, then yes, it'll be an issue. However, your parent commenter might be more moderate, or just doesn't care that much that their partner agrees with this particular societal pressure.

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