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‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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Re: ‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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I did the Chicago to San Francisco (and back) run fairly regularly in the 1990s, and we didn't depend on vacancy signs. Our solution was basically brand loyalty -- the Motel 6 people published a book with addresses and phone numbers of all their motels in the US. The scheme is, you get on the road, and some time around 7pm, you stop for dinner, and make a reservation (from the payphone) at the Motel 6 that's about 10…

Probably the rodeo. Last full week in July. Population of Cheyenne triples.

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Last summer I bought a motorcycle in Duluth, MN and rode it down to Austin, TX (ok, well, to Oklahoma City from where it hitched a ride in a U-Haul, hey it's a road trip and it was a used bike off Craigslist). I was mostly unplugged apart from the maps app (which is not how I plan on doing it next time, next time I plan on having physical maps, maps that can't die on you, move to an irrelevant portion of the trip, or…

I've found navigating by sign much easier by any sign anyhow.

Maps can break down at the most critical points: multiple exits happening in quick succession, exits followed by forks, the GPS reading you the entire sign contents which just serves as a distraction more than anything, etc. Not to mention now there is a screen you have to pay attention to!

If you know where you're going and the general route to get there (i.e. which highway to get onto), following by sign is much easier. Cities are exceptionally well marked. It's a low-tech solution that just works. And yes, no worries about the signs dying or losing signal or crashing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> many hotels started using drop in guests as people to be hustled It all depends on the approach. Instead of saying "do you have any rooms available?" you could just say "I only have $AMOUNT and quite frankly I'd rather stay here than at my old Uncle's place down the road" (or a variation of which indicates 'price does not matter'. [1] Disclosure: I am somewhat of a paid professional negotiator so techniques like th…

Is your recommended negotiation approach to lie?

It's not a lie if $AMOUNT is your budget for a room.

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My parents used to do this all if the time. Sometime in the late 90s, many hotels started using drop in guests as people to be hustled. These days, you're better off finding a way to get "status" from a chain so you can cancel without penalty and book a bunch of rooms. Our last road trip, I booked 4 rooms over 300 miles and cancelled in the afternoon before stopping in.

> many hotels started using drop in guests as people to be hustled It all depends on the approach. Instead of saying "do you have any rooms available?" you could just say "I only have $AMOUNT and quite frankly I'd rather stay here than at my old Uncle's place down the road" (or a variation of which indicates 'price does not matter'. [1] Disclosure: I am somewhat of a paid professional negotiator so techniques like th…

Hotel FD/Auditor here, we get to deal with all sorts of backflips for lower rates late at night. We used to have rates as low as employee pricing but these were being abused and had all sorts walking in over making proper reservations. I don't negotiate, or match. Quite frankly I don't give two shits what rooms at Motel 6 are supposedly going for. If it's past AAA you're not getting it.

>Our last road trip, I booked 4 rooms over 300 miles and cancelled in the afternoon before stopping in. Oh, you're /that/ guy.

Re: ‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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I did the Chicago to San Francisco (and back) run fairly regularly in the 1990s, and we didn't depend on vacancy signs. Our solution was basically brand loyalty -- the Motel 6 people published a book with addresses and phone numbers of all their motels in the US. The scheme is, you get on the road, and some time around 7pm, you stop for dinner, and make a reservation (from the payphone) at the Motel 6 that's about 10…

Looks like an Adventure. How long did it take you each way? 3 days? 12h/day (and something like 500Mi per day?)

Yes, about three days. We didn't stop for much, really just gas and dinner, so you can do 10-11 hr days and also get some sleep.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your recommended negotiation approach to lie?

It's not a lie if $AMOUNT is your budget for a room.

I'd guess your parent is referring to the part about his old Uncle down the road which I assumed was a lie, myself.

Re: ‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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wow author really reaching here.. How's the no vacancy sign any different than the Open/Close sign at the front of every business front?

"First, some quick historical context. It’s not clear who came up with the ingeniously simple pairing of “Vacancy” and “No Vacancy,” which allows the motel operator to simply toggle the “No” on or off, but it was probably sometime in the 1930s or before. "

Re: ‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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This is powerful metaphor for me. Before cell phones you were truly disconnected from life if you took a road trip.

Primitive technology like this and talking to people was the only way to really find out about your surroundings.

You were pretty isolated.

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I've never been able to find a room last minute by stopping in a hotel and asking to stay the night. They always say they're full.

I'd be curious to know the difference between your experience and mine. U. S. here, and its rare that a motel turns me away. Now, there are several distinguishing characteristics of my travel. First, mostly by motorcycle, and second is that because I'm on the bike I'm probably in some out-of-the-way place and not downtown SF. My mode of travel is important, I think, because sometimes I think they feel sorry for me (e…

>(Never mind that I'm perfectly content to put my tent up if I don't find a room.)

Just curious: where exactly do you pitch a tent in a situation like that? It doesn't seem like it's that easy to find some open ground where some cop won't harass you for trespassing or something.

Re: ‘No Vacancy’ Signs Are Vanishing from America’s Highways

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My parents used to do this all if the time. Sometime in the late 90s, many hotels started using drop in guests as people to be hustled. These days, you're better off finding a way to get "status" from a chain so you can cancel without penalty and book a bunch of rooms. Our last road trip, I booked 4 rooms over 300 miles and cancelled in the afternoon before stopping in.

How do you know that's true? There's no shortage of mo/hotels, and you can just try another one down the street if you don't like the price. Last time I took a road trip, the room prices were all very cheap, and I didn't book ahead. I was surprised at how cheap it was.
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