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Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by sametmax »

DrBazza wrote: post #245
svckr wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re 2): Pinterest. It's the cancer of Google image search. I don't get how Google's search ranking doesn't massively penalize that behaviour. I'd rather stomach an advertisement than the "plz register" BS.

Reminds me of the amusingly named 'expertsexchange' site, and the stackoverflow copies. Google shoved them down the ranking pretty quickly. Shame they don't do that to pinterest.

I always read that "expert sex change" instead of "experts exchange" for some reason;

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by wott »

RyanOD wrote: post #226
morganvachon wrote: post #155

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Your Starbucks example is flawed. Starbucks employees don't barge into your office with a boombox playing at full volume and screaming at you about their latest drinks, then make you pay for the taxi that brought them there, simply because you opened an article about their new store in your area. That's what autoplaying ads and videos on the web do: They catch you off guard with loud, annoying audio that you can't al…

"barge into your office"? Seems to me when you visit someone's website, you're in their office, not the other way around. I'm no fan of the auto-everything web, but I don't think your analogy here is sound.

I am not so sure any more, since more and more stuff is calculated on the client, fetched from many different servers by the client and assembled in the client. In fact the web page as we see it never exists on the main server (their office), it only exists in the client (our office).

Just a thought.

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by antocv »

amelius wrote: post #219

Imho, a better solution would be to be able to disable sound by default, and then allow sound to be turned on per-tab.

Exactly, I dont even let the "web-browsing" user access anything in /dev aside from null, zero and {}urandom.

The browser doesnt have flash or mp4 or other "video-plaything things", webgl or webrtc enabled.

On android (without google), WebApps sandbox to browse "web apps".

youtube-dl if I want to watch a movie, simple.

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by wott »

emidln wrote: post #246

In the past, I was responsible for analytics around a decision to autoplay or not autoplay videos on a media site. The site did both mobile and desktop videos. * voluntary customer feedback was universally negative * bounce rate decreased substantially (around 40%) * total interactions with the page increased almost 3x (clicks on significant UX elements such as like/subscibe/additional video plays) * interactions for…

The number of times I have to click a bit everywhere at random in a panic because some shit autoplay sound or video started yelling and I can't figure which one it is and where it is :-[]

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by odbol_ »

peeja wrote: post #154
Gracana wrote: post #112

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Formatting text this way makes it hard to read on mobile and in text browsers. I couldn't even reply just now, my text wouldn't show up as I typed it, I had to click "edit" so I could view and edit my post by itself. [edit] dang, can something be done about this? Flagging for format? Maybe a little drastic, but try reading HN in elinks, you'll see that a long line breaks the whole page. How about line wrap? Desktop u…

Wouldn't it be easier to just fix the CSS?

I've already fixed the CSS for hacker news several times; they always reject my suggestions though. It's like they want to keep it shitty

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by skrowl »

duaneb wrote: post #272
the8472 wrote: post #12

firefox -> about:config -> media.autoplay.enabled = false additionally the dom.audiochannel.mutedByDefault and media.default_volume settings may also be useful if you want slightly different behavior. If you want a more blunt tool you can also use content blockers to block media content until you opt into it for a particular site. > I know there are plugins than can somewhat do this, but no solutions are universal or…

> firefox -> about:config -> media.autoplay.enabled = false Unfortunately, this isn't available for devices with a monopolized browser. (iOS)

I can't tell you how many iOS users are tricked by "Oh, I can get Chrome and Firefox on iOS" that don't realize it's just skinned webkit. Totally dishonest.

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by dstrek »

badwolf wrote: post #221
morganvachon wrote: post #152

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Even worse for me is on mobile, scrolling down a news article, and suddenly this full page ad starts sneaking up from the bottom, with tiny text that says "keep scrolling to read the rest of the article". No thanks, apparently they didn't write that article to be read but rather to be a hook to get you to see that ad which takes over the screen. It's infuriating, bait and switch bullshit.

Oh god this is so awful. I just recently switched to an iPhone for work reasons. I used Adblock on my Rooted Nexus 6p, and never experienced this before. Now... all the frikkin time, to the point I rarely read news articles on my phone anymore.

I find the safari reader view to be super useful for almost all sites like this.

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by jrockway »

sametmax wrote: post #281
DrBazza wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the amusingly named 'expertsexchange' site, and the stackoverflow copies. Google shoved them down the ranking pretty quickly. Shame they don't do that to pinterest.

I always read that "expert sex change" instead of "experts exchange" for some reason;

Favoring first match vs. longest match.

Re: Dear Google, Apple, Mozilla, and MS: Please End Auto-Playing Media in Browsers

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Post by jrockway »

ben0x539 wrote: post #167
Gracana wrote: post #112

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Formatting text this way makes it hard to read on mobile and in text browsers. I couldn't even reply just now, my text wouldn't show up as I typed it, I had to click "edit" so I could view and edit my post by itself. [edit] dang, can something be done about this? Flagging for format? Maybe a little drastic, but try reading HN in elinks, you'll see that a long line breaks the whole page. How about line wrap? Desktop u…

Flagging a post for the shortcomings of the commenting platform seems a bit harsh.

I definitely downvote Reddit comments that are all text.
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