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Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#81

Another alternative is synthetic, lab grown diamonds. They are superior to naturally occuring diamonds, cheaper, aren't tainted by human misery and suffering like conflic/blood diamondst, and arent extracted from ecologically damaging mining techniques like open pit mining.

Plus they create jobs!

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#82
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a bit of a stretch to say that only diamond rings are acceptable "only" is a pretty exclusive word, but I don't think it's a stretch saying that only diamond rings are acceptable in the general case. Especially amongst the reasonably affluent class that you'll find a lot of on HN, not getting a diamond for a spouse would be unusual enough that friends would whisper behind your backs about it. (And to be clear,…

Nobody has ever been the least bit bothered by my non-diamond choice of an engagement ring for my wife.

For every such anecdote, there is seventeen opposing anecdotes where the wife insisted on a diamond ring and/or her friends/family thought the husband was "cheap" for not buying her one.

edit: Looks like I said something unpopular. Whoops!

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#83

I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

Congrats on the solid decade together with your wife, happy to hear you're doing well. I was wondering why in the ten years since your posting I hadn't come across much moissanite in jewelry, until I found out Charles & Colvard had a patent on it until the last year.

Really looking forward to how jewelrs will use these now that moissanite is off patent and startups like the Diamond Foundry have interesting approaches as well. http://www.racked.com/2016/6/14/11872830/lab-grown-diamonds-...

After decades of glimpses into the practices of DeBeers, maybe now will be the time the public becomes fully aware

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

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I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

Wife and I had read the Atlantic article before it was too late, went with plain wedding bands for both of us. However, living in America, this is causing issues for her, continuously having to explain to friends and acquaintances why she does not have a diamond.

We'd been looking for used rings as an alternative - hence, thank you very much for writing this, you just saved me and my wife several thousand dollars.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#85

Can anyone give me advice on how to convince my girlfriend of this though without her thinking I love her any less :)?

Ask her to read this article, and the Atlantic one it links to. My now-wife couldn't stomach the idea of wearing a diamond after learning about the industry. She went with a sapphire from a reputable company instead.

Other tip, her and I went ring shopping together, which really helped alleviate the pressure of trying to pick out something she'd enjoy wearing for many decades. She was still pleasantly surprised by the prosposal a couple months later, although she obviously knew it was in the cards at some point!

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#86
post #50

Can anyone give me advice on how to convince my girlfriend of this though without her thinking I love her any less :)?

A $2000 ring is cents per day for a long marriage. 66% of marriages survive 10 years. The ring would cost 50c per day. Buy the ring, and spend less of coffee.

Why is everything an investment

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#87
post #50

Can anyone give me advice on how to convince my girlfriend of this though without her thinking I love her any less :)?

A $2000 ring is cents per day for a long marriage. 66% of marriages survive 10 years. The ring would cost 50c per day. Buy the ring, and spend less of coffee.

My wife-to-be and I agreed to skip 'engagement' and the money we would have paid for a ring covered the entire cost of our wedding and an all-friends garden-party.

To this day, no-one has asked my wife why she only has a [tungsten] wedding ring and no engagement ring. So that's 50c per day saved for better causes. And we have lots of good memories from the party.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#88
Fun fact: Moissanite is nothing else than silicon carbide, which is also used for high-temperature power electronics. So, why don't give her/him a MOSFET ring? ;)

This may be a great / bad idea depending on his/her preferences.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#89
post #6

Similar arguments can be made about almost any fashion item. People don't buy fashion due to it's great quality, and most of the time not even due to good design, but mostly just to show off.

The only special thing about diamonds in particular is that - as opposed to other fashion items - the market for diamonds has been[0] literally created out of thin air by a single company, thanks to many decades of marketing efforts.

[0] - according to sources like http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you...

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#90

I'm the OP - surprised to see this at the top of HN today, but happy to post a quick update: My wife and I have been happily married for ten years now. She loves her ring, and it has held up extremely well. (She just had the band resized, absolutely no issues with the stones.) No one has ever thought it was anything other than a diamond ring, which includes several years of daily scrutiny from crazy New York City bri…

Wife and I had read the Atlantic article before it was too late, went with plain wedding bands for both of us. However, living in America, this is causing issues for her, continuously having to explain to friends and acquaintances why she does not have a diamond. We'd been looking for used rings as an alternative - hence, thank you very much for writing this, you just saved me and my wife several thousand dollars.

I had no idea that this could possibly be a thing.
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