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Diamonds Suck (2006)

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Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#31
Seems like an american things really. In France, nobody would expect anyone to buy a certain kind of ring. As long as it's pretty, you can go for anything. Or no engagement ring. Some friends of mine don't even get wedding rings. And I just met a not married couple wearing rings just because they liked it.

Our wedding ceremonies are also usually way cheaper and less show off that the ones your pop culture is selling to you, so I hope you are not actually doing it IRL cause that seems a terrible way to start a long term relationship, money wise.

But I guess we don't have such a marriage culture here anymore. People do marry, but we also now have something called the PACS, which is a very simple legal union with no bells and whistles that is pretty popular. And of course plenty of people living for ever without a label on their relationship.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#32
post #9

A diamond purchase is a type of proof-of-burn. It's a way to display how much you value the person by being willing to sacrifice a large part of your savings for them. It's not really about the stone itself, it's about the cost.

Which in turn isn't even just about the (monetary) cost: the diamond ring is part of a collection of social rituals intended to increase the (social & psychological) cost of exit from marriage.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#33
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From reading this, just show it to her. It says people can't spot the difference.

So, lie?

I think the point is that when she wears it around her friends, she can omit the fact that it's moissanite and her friends will think that it's a big, brilliant diamond.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#34
So people do this to signal (both to their spouse and their friends) they are both financially capable and care enough about their spouse to burn a large amount of money on a pyre. It's also a very useful signal that you are serious about the commitment and unlikely to back off of the marriage. I would prefer to replace it with a certificate that proves you have spent X thousand dollars on said certificate from Moche Silnorin Inc. A less personally-beneficial alternative would be some sort of modern dowery, the recipient of which is Moche Silnorin Inc, who holds on to the money until the culmination of the marriage, after which the dowery is given to the wife and so reunited with its giver once they share finances. If the engagement gets broken off, Moche Silnorin Inc keeps the money. However, this raises the possibility of bondsmen. Which isn't a possibility with diamonds, with their awful resale value. So perhaps just a non-refundable expense in exchange for proof you've given X thousand dollars to Moche Silnorin Inc would be ideal.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#36

Can anyone give me advice on how to convince my girlfriend of this though without her thinking I love her any less :)?

Use the difference in price on a down payment on a home/apartment or open a college savings account for your kids. Tell the truth, you want to build a life together and are thinking about the long term financial and personal consequences of this decision. I bought a ruby for my wife for this exact reason. I also wanted to show our community that we rejected diamonds as a tradition. I think the more we discuss this issue the more likely social conventions will change so future couples won't have to have a discussion.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#37
post #18

> Isn't it amazing (and scary) how brainwashed people are about the "value" of diamonds, even though they're not actually worth that much? I've never understood this argument. Aren't they worth what people are willing to pay?

> I've never understood this argument. Aren't they worth what people are willing to pay?

I think the parent's argument is that not many people know about their price being inflated by a combination of artificial scarcity and hype.

Re: Diamonds Suck (2006)

#40
Let's extend this sentiment to all gemstones. Reality show enthusiasts have started ripping up high peaks in Colorado for worthless shiny stones like aquamarine.
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