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3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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How do you guys do it? Admittedly, I returned my iPad after a week or so. But I just found it to be a lot less productive, even for consumption, than my laptop. For example, I have about 20 total tabs open right now, on two instances of the browser. Why two? I can snap the two side x side whenever I want to compare two pages, or have them both up (this is useful, when I'm watching video, and browsing at the same time…

I have about 20 total tabs open right now.

What are you doing? How focused are you on reading any one of those tabs?

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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post #12

How do you guys do it? Admittedly, I returned my iPad after a week or so. But I just found it to be a lot less productive, even for consumption, than my laptop. For example, I have about 20 total tabs open right now, on two instances of the browser. Why two? I can snap the two side x side whenever I want to compare two pages, or have them both up (this is useful, when I'm watching video, and browsing at the same time…

I have about 20 total tabs open right now. What are you doing? How focused are you on reading any one of those tabs?

I know I use open tabs like a stack. I read the web breadth first.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

#14

How do you guys do it? Admittedly, I returned my iPad after a week or so. But I just found it to be a lot less productive, even for consumption, than my laptop. For example, I have about 20 total tabs open right now, on two instances of the browser. Why two? I can snap the two side x side whenever I want to compare two pages, or have them both up (this is useful, when I'm watching video, and browsing at the same time…

Probably not most people, but I try to. Having 20 tabs open means that your brain must keep track of all of them. Having only 1 or 2 instead is a different story.

Having 20 tabs open means that your brain must keep track of all of them.

That seems backwards. If I have 20 tabs open, the browser is keeping track of them, not me. If I can only have one page open at a time, I have to actively remember other pages that are relevant to what I'm doing.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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I haven't had an iPad for very long, but I love, love, love it for web browsing. It's like you're flying over your web pages. However, I don't like how iPad Safari handles "tabs". I would much prefer traditional tabs where I could select or close a tab in only a single tap, instead of the three taps that are required now. Regardless, it looks like I can finally retire my Newton.

Really? I try to love mine for browsing (on it now) but the silly thumbnail tab screen that feels like a clumsy iPhone leftover kills me. I almost feel like I'm going back to IE pre-tabs.

Copy/paste is also so much slower than a laptop... I don't know how to improve it, but it is relatively tedious.

I don't care about the lack of Flash, but broken iframes, no drag/drop, no way of bringing up the keyboard for things like javascript/canvas apps, no proper fixed positioning for CSS, no resizable or even scrollable textareas and the ocassional full page refresh when switching apps and/or "tabs" that kills form input all combine to make it a mediocre experience IMO. Granted, all this is also true on the iPhone, but it's a phone, not a 10" tablet.

I really like my iPad and I'm by no means going to return it, but browsing doesn't seem like the high point.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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The screen in gorgeous. It’s the first thing that strikes people when they see the device.

I am not so impressed with the screen. The dpi is ~30 dpi less than an iPhone, but it is noticeable... especially since you have to hold it at less than arm's length away. If the new iPhone dpi is really 2x what it currently is, the iPad's lower resolution will become very noticeable.

Edit: changed 4x to 2x. I wanted to convey the total pixel count going up 4x, but I guess since dpi is a linear measurement it should only be stated as a 2x increase. Either way, it will smoke the iPad's pixel density.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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post #12

How do you guys do it? Admittedly, I returned my iPad after a week or so. But I just found it to be a lot less productive, even for consumption, than my laptop. For example, I have about 20 total tabs open right now, on two instances of the browser. Why two? I can snap the two side x side whenever I want to compare two pages, or have them both up (this is useful, when I'm watching video, and browsing at the same time…

I have about 20 total tabs open right now. What are you doing? How focused are you on reading any one of those tabs?

I'm surprised he only has 20. I use tabs as a reading queue...usually from news aggregators like HN. If I waited till I had time to read everything that looked interesting, I'd miss most of the stuff that looked interesting. If I just queue it up, it can sit quietly in the background and wait for me to take a break from work.

I use different browsers to logically separate my groups of viewing habits. One is open for casual HN style surfing, one for a hobby I'm work on, one for work, one for school, one to isolate media apps like Pandora or Hulu, etc. Each has a queue of pages I was working on/reading/in the middle of something and had to run out to a meeting or whatever and didn't get back to it immediately. Heck I've had half-written replies in emails up for days in a separate browser with all of the related research tabs I was using while constructing the email up as well.

I tried to keeping myself to just a handful of tabs in a single window but I found I was missing so much good stuff I just gave it up.

I find this only works if you have a high abstract -> concrete learning style (sometimes called "synthesizers"). Not everybody works that way and that's fine - but other workflows drive me batty. Once I've assembled everything in a browser instance, I can even let it go for a week or two, forgetting completely about it before returning devoting my attention to the "concept" of that instance -- the semantics of what it's for are all there because everything is grouped in an instance. I can dash off a several thousand word paper in just a few hours of focused concentration because all of the research is done and sitting there for me -- left by my past self.

But if, like most people, my attention wanders after a few hours, I can switch instances and immediately context shift to a completely different semantic set and let my mind chew on the other problem unconsciously.

Even IRL, when in college, I'd have different tables setup the same way for different classes or projects. All the books and research notes in a stack next to the half-written paper.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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The screen in gorgeous. It’s the first thing that strikes people when they see the device. I am not so impressed with the screen. The dpi is ~30 dpi less than an iPhone, but it is noticeable... especially since you have to hold it at less than arm's length away. If the new iPhone dpi is really 2x what it currently is, the iPad's lower resolution will become very noticeable. Edit: changed 4x to 2x. I wanted to convey…

The DPI on the 960x640 will be doubled compared to the 480x320; only the pixel count quadruples.

Re: 3 Weeks of iPad: Some observations

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have about 20 total tabs open right now. What are you doing? How focused are you on reading any one of those tabs?

I'm surprised he only has 20. I use tabs as a reading queue...usually from news aggregators like HN. If I waited till I had time to read everything that looked interesting, I'd miss most of the stuff that looked interesting. If I just queue it up, it can sit quietly in the background and wait for me to take a break from work. I use different browsers to logically separate my groups of viewing habits. One is open for…

I completely agree with this usage case, but I still don't miss it on the iPad. I think this comes down to the fact that I'm never trying to balance work and casual browsing on the iPad. At work, I might have several 'tab queues' open in order to keep a hold on articles or sites I want to glance at between things. But on the iPad, I just go one article at a time, reading them in turn, browsing the comments too. I never feel the need to build the queue, because I'm not going to be turning away from the pages for work anytime soon, and even if I do, the work is being done in a different place, so I just put the device down. Then again, I also leave the iPad at home, as a purely entertainment and communications device. Couch and bed surfing, comic viewing, and video watching.
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