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> according to a Washington Post analysis of federal health data. I wish they'd released this.
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You aren't responding to what I actually said. I didn't say medications doesn't help some people. I didn't say medications don't help ever. I did say that medications can't cure depression.
It works around half the time. So, yea it can cure depression though it does not cure everyone of depression. It's kind of like rebooting a computer, it does not always work and sometimes it makes things worse. But, comparing the cost vs benefit it's generally worth trying.
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If you can provide a source showing either that a deficiency of medication is the cause of depression, or that medications do cure depression, then I will provide a source.
From personal experience: medication stabilised my last depression 7 years ago. After his stabilisation me and my therapist decreased and finally overcame it using EMDR therapy (very interesting technology by the way). This after 18 years of on-and-off depressions in which unaware of my condition.
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It works around half the time. So, yea it can cure depression though it does not cure everyone of depression. It's kind of like rebooting a computer, it does not always work and sometimes it makes things worse. But, comparing the cost vs benefit it's generally worth trying.
Can you provide any evidence that medication cures depression at all let alone 50% of the time?
Doctors don't have a cure for depression at the moment, it's true. They also don't have cures for HIV/AIDS, or diabetes, or asthma, or lots of other chronic medical conditions (see https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... for a list of the most common ones).
But they do have medications that can make it possible for people with those conditions to lead long, productive, more or less normal lives. Are you suggesting the people with these conditions should be turning those medications down? That they should refuse any treatment short of 100% removal of the underlying condition, even if by doing so they reduce the length and quality of their own life?
Why, exactly? Why on earth make the perfect the enemy of the good like that?
> according to a Washington Post analysis of federal health data. I wish they'd released this.
- http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/suicide/rates_1999_2014....
If they (WaPo) had included CDC instead of the "Federal Health", it might have been easier for you to find?
If you are generally interested in the topic, there are many other "factoids" and scattered data sets. Here are a couple:
- https://www.statista.com/topics/791/suicide/
- https://ourworldindata.org/suicide/“It’s really hard to withdraw from antidepressants,” said New York psychiatrist and pharmacology expert Julie Holland. In some cases, “people feel like cold water is running down their spine. They can feel their brain sloshing around, or electric zaps in their head.” Dang. If it's true as claimed that medications only help half the time, this seems like a strong encouragement to try things like exercise, yoga, and li…
It can be chicken and egg. I imagine that for many personal lifestyle changes are more difficult than popping a pill. Once they start to feel the benefits of medication then doing things out of the norm may come easier. In my own anecdote, it was over the counter stuff like St John's Wort and valerian that helped me do the life change stuff. Also, no one lives in a vacuum. If your husband/wife and kids are all used t…
Depression is not caused by a deficiency of medications, but by a deficiency of hope, so medications cannot cure it.
Like many other things too much depression for too long becomes clinical depression. Then it is no longer serving its proper function and becomes a pathology. People with clinical depression can't "hope" their way out of it anymore than someone with eczema or cancer can "wish" those conditions away.
Imagine we used the term "stomach bug" for both food poisoning and stomach cancer. Now imagine you have stomach cancer and everyone keeps telling you to drink plenty of fluids, rest, and it will go away. That's basically what your post is saying.
“It’s really hard to withdraw from antidepressants,” said New York psychiatrist and pharmacology expert Julie Holland. In some cases, “people feel like cold water is running down their spine. They can feel their brain sloshing around, or electric zaps in their head.” Dang. If it's true as claimed that medications only help half the time, this seems like a strong encouragement to try things like exercise, yoga, and li…
Depression is not caused by a deficiency of medications, but by a deficiency of hope, so medications cannot cure it.