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Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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How do you know that people are doing this with your VMs?

I'm surprised the customers would openly discuss it, even to their provider. The less people that know about it and do it the better I would think.

Surprising or not, they do. I suppose some people may feel as you do, but many do not. Many of our customers look at us as a resource for how best to use the Infrastructure we offer as a Service and share a great deal of detail.

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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I'm truly sorry if my comment affected you negatively, it wasn't my intention. I used to be an econ tutor and sometimes my urge to just type my thoughts that way comes out and I regret that it sounds like lecturing. Anyways, why do you think that, given all that, scalping is a bad thing then? Isn't getting the goods to where they're valued most a good thing? Who's getting heartbroken here? The people who can't afford…

A problem I see is that the reseller is getting money for creating an artificial scarcity (buying off the stock of the original seller). It doesn't feel to me like an ethical behaviour. You portray it as making an unsolicited offering to the Gods of the Market on behalf of the original seller, but I don't think many people find a positive value in that. On the other hand, compare an example situations without scalpin…

If it were easy to scalp, people would do it themselves, so it is nontrivial.

Scalpers also make it easier to buy the product; without scalping one can not be sure whether one will get the product or not.

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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Doing things for press coverage in order to get an increase in future sales is a great idea for a startup with limited marketing funds, but Nintendo aren't exactly in that position. The fact is Nintendo failed to supply a sufficient amount of their product, and that has created a demand in a secondary market. All of the profit generated in that secondary market would have gone to Nintendo if they'd managed their supp…

> All of the profit generated in that secondary market would have gone to Nintendo if they'd managed their supply properly. Untrue. The secondary market is currently selling units at a huge markup. I don't think we have a great indication at the moment on how fast the secondary market is moving; it's possible that, whilst Nintendo might have undervalued demand, the resellers are overvaluing it. As others point out, t…

A model against this would be to announce that the first million copies will be at a 50% markup. It would mean that Nintendo (or Apple or whatever consumer-land vendor) can capture the added value, while using moderate production lines, stretching the delivery over time and still get the press releases about "We got our hands over the product, here's what it looks like".

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

#194

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How do you know that people are doing this with your VMs?

My question exactly. Will need to ensure I don't ever use OPs service

I should add that some sites (especially ones counting on ad revenue, or that don't want "scalpers") may consider bots hitting them as abusive and will either contact us or just block specific IPs. At that point we know what is going on. Our customer may call us because "it stopped working" when they have been blocked or rate limited. I will point out that many sites that bots hit do not care at all and know it is happening.

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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Possible, but Nintendo do not seem like the sort of company that needs to use direct marketing tactics to sell their products.

Doesn't need, but - if it leads to increase in sales or brand exposure (via increase of press covering the situation) - it may as well engage in such tactics anyway.

But the weird thing about the brand exposure is that before this sale, there was zero advertising - it was all word-of-mouth, without Reddit I wouldn't have even known this thing existed. Nintendo didn't do any advertising in Australia I saw, nothing on TV, at the shops or on buses like it happened with the regular consoles. I don't get it, and press coverage is still minimal outside of the circles that knew about this thing already (tech press).

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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I was doing this (refreshing). I had the Amazon app open on my phone and the website on my MacBook. I added it to my cart from the app at approx 14:00:01 ET, and by the time I clicked the cart and then checkout I got an error message saying the item was sold out. I was so pissed that this happened, because I had been planning to follow this diligently since the day it was announced, and I had no less than 3 calendar…

My gf just got one at Best Buy. They seem to have plenty.

But... but that's like IRL. There are people out there.

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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$610 was the selling price.

Who in the world wants these so badly? I'm excited to get one... but it's not like I'm in a huge rush to play 30 year old games... If I really wanted to play them right now, I could download an emulator.

If you had a Wii or Wii U then you can even buy 350+ games on their virtual console.

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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Who in the world wants these so badly? I'm excited to get one... but it's not like I'm in a huge rush to play 30 year old games... If I really wanted to play them right now, I could download an emulator.

Cool points maybe? Those could have tangible value for some people. Like streamers for instance.

You can't stream the output of an emulator?

Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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Clearly thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of gamers were sitting on the product page hammering the F5 key and some random selection thereof got their wish. I highly doubt that. My guess is that third party resellers used bots to purchase them all. Why wouldn't tc come to the same conclusion? Edit. yep here's one on eBay for $500+: http://m.ebay.com/itm/New-Nintendo-NES-Classic-Edition-Conso...

(Re)seller here. I got one the old fashioned way, by pounding the refresh button. I actually am unaware of a bot you speak of... do you have an example? The key to this hustle is to never tell your friends that you got one because their con of 'it's for my kids' is incessant. Looking at some of the eBay sales data already a few have gone for over 600. Yay for me!

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Re: Amazon sells out of the NES Classic Edition in less than a minute

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I grok capitalism and even like it. But there are times where it is difficult to like it. In this case, people rushed to buy this product for the sole purpose of reselling it for 8x. What's wrong with our society that some people can be so morally bankrupt and bereft of good sense. In the end, I think these scalpers won't sell for 8x because anintendo will just pump out more product. Still, it is sad to see this happ…

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