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Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by Symbiote »

freehunter wrote: post #166
micaksica wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this drives me insane too, and is the thing that I hate about the "workstation class" devices. I don't use the number pad and I don't want it, thank you. It trips me up whenever I have to use one and I have to offset my hands from the display.

I would have really loved one when I was doing a lot of data entry in a previous job. Instead I just got a USB keyboard with a number pad, I understand that my niche desires don't necessarily make for a mass-market desirable device.

A laptop isn't a suitable tool for frequent data entry.

(By regulation, in some countries, like the UK)

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by Symbiote »

guitarbill wrote: post #184
ReverseCold wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Razer Blade

My issue with Razer: As far as I can tell, they only ship laptops with the country's keyboard layout. I move around a lot and always buy laptops with US keyboard layout. At the moment, I'm in Germany and can only order Razer Blades with the awful German layout :( I know, pretty niche, but both Apple and Dell allow you to do this.

This page gives a drop-down with the choice of an American or Nordic layout. There's clearly something dodgy with the site, when the German page offers me the Nordic layout.

http://www.razerzone.com/de-de/store/razer-blade-2015

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by discordance »

234dd57d2c8db wrote: post #185
rarepostinlurkr wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone adding a companies name to a slide is not proof of being a willing participant in anything.

Alright, why don't you tell me all the proof you have that Apple was not a participant in the programme? The NSA talks about them in internal documents, that they have absolutely zero incentive to lie on, that Apple is a part of PRISM. Why would the NSA lie about that on an internal document. Don't you think there would be documents saying "We tried to get Apple to cooperate, but they didn't. Until they do, these are…

My guess is most of the companies (Yahoo excluded) on the PRISM slide were not complicit with the PRISM or the NSA. More likely, they were pwned by the NSA without their knowing.

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by lucb1e »

21 wrote: post #90
ilaksh wrote: post #66

I think they said they spent like $2800. For that amount of money you could get 2 Chromebooks ($179 each), build two decent gaming PCs ($900 each), and rent 5 Digital Ocean VPSs ($5 per month) for two years.

And for the price of a Ferarri you can get 5 Toyotas, 2 scooters and monthly passes for the subway for a year. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

That you can get a whole lot of bang for that amount of bucks if you only didn't buy that "disappointment" (in reddit OP's words).

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by hellofunk »

nine_k wrote: post #6

There are other nice machines to run Linux on. AFAICT people buy Apple laptops to run macOS; for that you have pretty little choice.

Can you recommend a good Linux-compatible laptop.

I saw that Dell no longer sells Linux pre-installed on its XPS machines.

What are some good alternatives?

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by hellofunk »

colemickens wrote: post #15

Meanwhile I just put Arch back on my Chromebook Pixel and I couldn't be happier. Far better screen, far better font rendering, and no absurdities regarding keyboard shortcuts and keys whenever plugging in an external keyboard. I can use my mouse with normal scroll while having my trackpad inverted. I have a real window manager again with "Always On Top". And I have real per-app volume mixing again. Oh, and an escape…

Is it easy to install and use Linux on all Chromebook Pixel machines? I'm looking into it, what about Ubuntu? I was googling this last night and it's surprisingly hard to track down information about this, no wonder the OP had to just go and test it for himself.

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by pjmlp »

pinkrooftop wrote: post #3

A more accurate description is that Linux isn't compatible with the new Macbook Pro. It's not Apple's job to make their laptop compatible with Linux.

Agreed, if people want a laptop compatible with GNU/Linux they should give their money to those that care to provide such laptops.

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by loc_00000000 »

I don't see a big problem here. A virtual machine will not have the same conflicts. Besides, running a Linux distro in a VM is very efficient in terms of CPU and in turn battery consumption (I get <1% CPU with VMware). having the two OS's (OSX and Linux) in parallel should be the preferred operation.

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by nightski »

21 wrote: post #90
ilaksh wrote: post #66

I think they said they spent like $2800. For that amount of money you could get 2 Chromebooks ($179 each), build two decent gaming PCs ($900 each), and rent 5 Digital Ocean VPSs ($5 per month) for two years.

And for the price of a Ferarri you can get 5 Toyotas, 2 scooters and monthly passes for the subway for a year. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Except Ferarris are fast. A MBP has what, a Radeon Pro 455? That is laughable compared to a GTX 1060.

Re: Warning: 2016 MacBook Pro is not compatible with Linux

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Post by loc_00000000 »

moondev wrote: post #150
bluedino wrote: post #142

Works just fine in a VM - I find it works better to just do that and you keep all the OS X benefits (touchpad, battery life...)

What do you use? I like fusion but can't get option to map to alt for alt tab to save my life

You could use any VM and make it fullscreen so you can swap environments using the three finger swipe set up in the trackpad gestures.
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