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China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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Utah had cold fusion, anyone remember that? Fusion research is tricky to evaluate (and false positive results are common).

A default position of skepticism works in both cases.

Sure, we have to be careful about these things. Replication is key, which is where the Utah results fell down quickly.

Not sure why I'm getting down votes on parent, but there it is.

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Anyone remember that really old game Outpost? It ran on Windows 3.1; used a CD recording of The Planets as its soundtrack. That's the first time I've heard of Tokamak reactors. What these are trying to achieve is pretty amazing. I hope one day, one of these reactors will be able to sustain a greater output than input. It has the potential to move the planet into a completely different energy age. Imagine if we could…

I remember that game! Mini black hole starts gobbling up planet Earth. :) And the voxels.

Hmm, you might be thinking of the second one, the RTS? The first had Earth struck by an asteroid that split in two when trying to defend. The entire game was on a far planet you travelled to, turn based strategy I believe.

Intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember that game! Mini black hole starts gobbling up planet Earth. :) And the voxels.

Hmm, you might be thinking of the second one, the RTS? The first had Earth struck by an asteroid that split in two when trying to defend. The entire game was on a far planet you travelled to, turn based strategy I believe. Intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs

I personally loved outpost 2. There is a fan maintained version of the game which is still fun to play. http://outpost2.net/

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, you might be thinking of the second one, the RTS? The first had Earth struck by an asteroid that split in two when trying to defend. The entire game was on a far planet you travelled to, turn based strategy I believe. Intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtfmvwyHuNs

I personally loved outpost 2. There is a fan maintained version of the game which is still fun to play. http://outpost2.net/

Nice, I'll play with it again. :) Thanks.

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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What could possibly go wrong, really.

Just watched a video giving some quick background on fusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZsaaturR6E Informative and concise. Thought it was extremely hard to do though...

The "nuclear waste is.. nuclear waste" bit is a thoughtless, easy jab that plays on the unfounded fear of nuclear energy. Safely stored nuclear waste isn't a danger to anybody.

I also don't like how the rest of the video continues to try to put nuclear in a bad light, going as far as implying it's not "clean energy".

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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It's unfortunate that it's like this, but I automatically do not believe any scientific breakthroughs that come from China. There has simply been too much fraud for me to believe anything they say. http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinic...

In a few decades, when most of the new inventions will start coming from China, this attitude is going to be very difficult to maintain.

When.

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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It's unfortunate that it's like this, but I automatically do not believe any scientific breakthroughs that come from China. There has simply been too much fraud for me to believe anything they say. http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinic...

In a few decades, when most of the new inventions will start coming from China, this attitude is going to be very difficult to maintain.

It is quite possible that most of the new inventions will be coming from China, and also most of China's scientific production will be rubbish. China has been great with scaling up its scientific community, but the problem of establishing an academic culture of scientific honesty is harder.

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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It's unfortunate that it's like this, but I automatically do not believe any scientific breakthroughs that come from China. There has simply been too much fraud for me to believe anything they say. http://www.sciencealert.com/80-of-the-data-in-chinese-clinic...

In a few decades, when most of the new inventions will start coming from China, this attitude is going to be very difficult to maintain.

True. We need to see China creating something that is not a copy first.

Re: China’s ‘Artificial Sun’ achieves fusion breakthrough

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just watched a video giving some quick background on fusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZsaaturR6E Informative and concise. Thought it was extremely hard to do though...

The "nuclear waste is.. nuclear waste" bit is a thoughtless, easy jab that plays on the unfounded fear of nuclear energy. Safely stored nuclear waste isn't a danger to anybody. I also don't like how the rest of the video continues to try to put nuclear in a bad light, going as far as implying it's not "clean energy".

> Safely stored nuclear waste isn't a danger to anybody.

You can not claim that without a credible plan to store it until it's no longer hot, however long that takes.

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