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Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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Fact check: Copernicus was not killed. He died of natural causes at 70. According to viral stories at the time, moments after having seen the first print of his book.

See, just like that. Would be more effective with sources, though.

Given the amount of misinformation put out by the MSM this election they'd do well to blanket ban the NYT, CNN, et al.

Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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It's also on us to resist the temptation to build social media bubbles around ourselves, and to poke into each other's bubbles. Every time I've wanted to block a friend or relative on facebook, I've put my phone down and come back to it later. Looking away from people we disagree with isn't working. My cousin shared a post this morning asking why people on the left aren't celebrating the fact that a female campaign m…

When I knew people who supported Romney, I felt no need based on that to exclude them from my life or my social media circles. One's ability to support Trump tells me much more about a person. There are too many things that are good and should be fundamental about a functional, enlightened society that one must reject in order to support Trump. Prejudice, fraud, bullying, and sexual harassment must all be accepted. P…

so you are okay with supporting killing of innocent civilians half way around the world, bombing of hospitals filled with children and women? Pointing out all the flaws of Trump ( which are true, btw) but ignoring bigger flows of Hillary while assuming some moral ground is more fucked up imo.

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What I'm suggesting we start with is not exactly the same. The analogous question in that domain is "How accurate have they been in eliminating wrong answers?" Everything has to be right for an answer option to be correct. Only one thing has to be wrong for it to be incorrect.

And how do you think that they would do that? Choosing a random story from politifact: http://www.politifact.com/missouri/statements/2016/nov/06/ro... Like most false stories, there is a hint of truth to this but that doesn't make it true. Politfact spends 3 pages discussing it, and concludes: Courts did object in three cases to decisions Kander made as secretary of state. But the specifics of those cases are much mo…

I'm not surprised parsing something nuanced is beyond state of the art. But what about "illegal immigrants are committing an epidemic of rape against our children" or "we have a flood of illegal immigrants"?

A lot of claims that were made this cycle are rooted in measured quantities where the measurements we have disagree with the claims.

Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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"It’s totally forgotten now, but for the 100 years after the American Revolution, the U.S. government made it free or almost free to send newspapers anywhere by mail. It was available to papers of all political perspectives, with no government censorship. The rationale was straightforward: This was necessary for people to participate in governing themselves."

https://theintercept.com/2016/11/09/donald-trump-will-be-pre...

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There is no need to create a Grand Unified Theory of misinformation, here. This problem isn't that hard. You filter this stuff and rank it by its SOURCE, not by the content of individual articles. It's not hard to figure out which online sources are pushing out most of the abjectly-bad propaganda, and de-rank them.

"This problem isn't that hard. You filter this stuff and rank it by its SOURCE, not by the content of individual articles." I don't think reifying ad hominem into code is the solution to the problem. Of course, if you don't mind a rare few false positives here and there on articles, I've got your filter right here: def source_is_trustworthy(source): return False Remember as you sit here thinking through your exceptio…

As someone who vehemently opposes Trump, I feel that allegations of anti-Trump bias in the mainstream media were entirely correct and somewhat to be expected. Although Trump is certainly a name that sells papers, Trump's repeated threats to open up news media to broader libel laws were not well received. The news organizations' endorsements were pretty one-sided[0]. I don't want to take you too literally, but it seems to me pretty obvious that a model ignoring the MSM entirely would not be preferable to one that took into account the MSM opinions and then applied a correctional factor. I'm sure we agree that truth is a function of our means for determining truth, but I suspect we disagree strongly on the reliability of Internet news sources.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_...

Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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The same way parents are responsible for the education of their kids, not schools, individuals are responsible for feeding their brain and developing opinions.

Facebook isn't promising more than cat gifs, Buzzfeed click bait and rants. It is not more an echo chamber than your group of friends.

Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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I would like to see less headlines frame every statement made by a company as "admits." Facebook is not admitting to wrongdoing or confessing to a secret crime they tried to cover up, they are acknowledging there is an issue that they have to improve on.

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"This problem isn't that hard. You filter this stuff and rank it by its SOURCE, not by the content of individual articles." I don't think reifying ad hominem into code is the solution to the problem. Of course, if you don't mind a rare few false positives here and there on articles, I've got your filter right here: def source_is_trustworthy(source): return False Remember as you sit here thinking through your exceptio…

As someone who vehemently opposes Trump, I feel that allegations of anti-Trump bias in the mainstream media were entirely correct and somewhat to be expected. Although Trump is certainly a name that sells papers, Trump's repeated threats to open up news media to broader libel laws were not well received. The news organizations' endorsements were pretty one-sided[0]. I don't want to take you too literally, but it seem…

What do you think was unfair about the Trump coverage in mainstream newspapers?

What is the correct balance of endorsements? Is anything other than 50:50 incorrect?

Re: Facebook admits it must do more to stop the spread of misinformation

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"OMG, Trump has won through lies and deception! We failed to stop him. How on Earth did that happen? We must out-manipulate our opponents next time." If you read between the lines, this is what the article condenses to. The discussion here is mostly creepy groupthink shit. Social networks fact-checking their content? What's next? Should AT&T stop the spread of misinformation over its phone lines? Should USPS fact-che…

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